2004 World Series

[Old Fezziwig]

I somewhat agree, Guilt Puppy. It's always a good sign when you can win on the days you don't play well. That said, they still need to play cleaner ball. Regardless of conditions or fatigue, they still almost handed that sucker away, which should be more bothersome because of the fact the Cardinals couldn't build upon any momentum they gained. They were lucky last night and need to play better -- you cannot give a good team four or five outs in an inning. But, in the end, they won, and it counts the same as if they shut them out for 9.

Nick

 

[Davelozzi]

you cannot give a good team four or five outs in an inning.

Huh? Of course you can't -- the inning ends after the third one.

 

[Crothian]

Not always, there are ways the inning is not over after three outs.....

Baseball is like the infield fly rule...hard to understand...

 

[Crothian]

THere was a sign being held that said something like "I'm an idiot too" anyone know what that's in reference to?

 

[Lord Foul]

THere was a sign being held that said something like "I'm an idiot too" anyone know what that's in reference to?

Instead of "cowboy up" by Millar, he said that we are just a bunch of idiots who love to play or something to that effect.

4 errors....here we go again. Hope they can hold on like last night.

 

[ClashmoreDave]

THere was a sign being held that said something like "I'm an idiot too" anyone know what that's in reference to?

I believe Terry Francona, the Sox manager, called his guys a bunch of idiots, in one of those "I love these guys" sort of way.

 

[Old Fezziwig]

I was referring to the fact that when you make an error, it's like giving the team an extra out. If there's a groundball to short with two outs and the SS bobbles it, allowing the runner to reach, the team batting gets a freebie -- they haven't earned it, as there should be three outs. Instead, they get another chance -- a "fourth" out. No, they don't literally get more than three outs, but it's damn close.

That said, you can literally have more than three strikeouts in an inning -- on a dropped third strike, the catcher needs to tag the runner or throw him out at first before he reaches the bag. This, again, is essentially an error, however (usually scored as a passed ball, IIRC).

Nick

 

[Crothian]

It'll be funny if the Sox go up three games to zero and then the cardinals start winning.

But I don't think that will happen, the Cardinals for some reason have been just insanely good at home and they should take game 3 at least.....

 

[Old Fezziwig]

I don't think a sweep is in the future for the Sox -- the Cards are too good at home. Best case scenario, Sox take it in five. More likely, the Sox take one game (game 4) in St. Louis, drop two, and then bring the series home and win it in game six.

Nick

 

[Hammerhead]

Best case? The best case is the Cards don't give up another run and crush the Sox no problem.