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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 2633012" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Perhaps somewhere I slipped in my terminology - I had been trying to denote a difference between 'active" campaigning and "passive" campaigning.  Active campaigning is comprised of activities clearly stated to be about getting votes - Like starting a 'Vote for me!" thread.  Passive campaigning is what you're talking about.  </p><p></p><p>But really, it <em>isn't</em> campaigning unless it is specifically designed to try to earn votes.  I don't think TB campaigns.  He is who he is, and he, of all people, isn't going to change who he is and how he behaves over the course of the year just to get votes.  That'd be dishonest.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's a difference between seeing it as a defect, and seeing the system weigh a particular aspect too heavily.  Sure, a judge ought to be engaged in the community, and basically personable.  But the act of judging <em>doesn't</em> require you be one of the most engaged of all people, or the most charismatic on the boards.  But, the nomination system seems to weigh those highly.</p><p></p><p>You may say, "Well, <em>the people</em> seem to think it matters!"  And if you think that what they believe should be the end-all and be-all of the election, and you aren't willing to be convinced that things <em>the people</em> might not think of first can be important, well, such is life.  </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Please don't overspeak the proposal.  I don't think anyone has suggested <em>completely</em> eliminating incumbents.  </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Heaven forfend I should not give out my trust all-or-nothing!  </p><p></p><p>No, it isn't meaningless.  It means I trust the public to consider some things, but not others.    I trust them to make decisions based upon what is most immediately important to their minds - comparison of products.  I don't expect them to give a whit about the long-term health of the awards.  It isn't their primary concern, and they don't sit in a place where they have the data to make the decisions.  </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, call me greedy - I want more than just great judges.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Neither do I, really.  This is not about the defeated candidates, myself included.  This is about what's might best for the Ennies in the long run - beyond this year's choosing of products.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 2633012, member: 177"] Perhaps somewhere I slipped in my terminology - I had been trying to denote a difference between 'active" campaigning and "passive" campaigning. Active campaigning is comprised of activities clearly stated to be about getting votes - Like starting a 'Vote for me!" thread. Passive campaigning is what you're talking about. But really, it [i]isn't[/i] campaigning unless it is specifically designed to try to earn votes. I don't think TB campaigns. He is who he is, and he, of all people, isn't going to change who he is and how he behaves over the course of the year just to get votes. That'd be dishonest. There's a difference between seeing it as a defect, and seeing the system weigh a particular aspect too heavily. Sure, a judge ought to be engaged in the community, and basically personable. But the act of judging [i]doesn't[/i] require you be one of the most engaged of all people, or the most charismatic on the boards. But, the nomination system seems to weigh those highly. You may say, "Well, [i]the people[/i] seem to think it matters!" And if you think that what they believe should be the end-all and be-all of the election, and you aren't willing to be convinced that things [i]the people[/i] might not think of first can be important, well, such is life. Please don't overspeak the proposal. I don't think anyone has suggested [i]completely[/i] eliminating incumbents. Heaven forfend I should not give out my trust all-or-nothing! No, it isn't meaningless. It means I trust the public to consider some things, but not others. I trust them to make decisions based upon what is most immediately important to their minds - comparison of products. I don't expect them to give a whit about the long-term health of the awards. It isn't their primary concern, and they don't sit in a place where they have the data to make the decisions. Okay, call me greedy - I want more than just great judges. :D Neither do I, really. This is not about the defeated candidates, myself included. This is about what's might best for the Ennies in the long run - beyond this year's choosing of products. [/QUOTE]
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