2007 Judge Selection

[Umbran]

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I think the last thing this conversation needs is non-constructive twigging in the name of wit. People are in high enough dudgeon as it is without this kind of thing.

I am going to strongly encourage everyone to reconsider anything they post in this thread in an attmept to be witty. The management is running out of patience with all sides, here, and we are much less likely to take it with a smile. I hope this is clear, because you may not get further warnings in this thread.

If you've got a problem or questions about this, please feel free to contact one of the moderators directly.

 

[Rasyr]

17 -- retake -- I wasn't talking about forcing anybody to restrict conversations to a single place, but making the ENnies site itself the clearing house for the major conversations, and for the judge deliberations. As it stands right now, judges are forced to become EN World members if elected (heck, it is doubtful that a person could become a judge without becoming an EN World member and pimping themselves here) because all judge deliberations are held here on EN World rather than on the ENnies website (that is, IMO, where the judges should be having their deliberations) in a hidden forum.

Here is a question for Morrus and the ENnies board? Do the EN World Moderators have access to see the forum where the judges hold their deliberations? If the answer is yes. then why should select EN World Members (i.e. the moderators) be granted a special priviledge that others do not get? Can Moderators from other sites get to watch such deliberations as well?

Second question for ENnie officials - Since allowing judge nominations from outside EN World, how many such nominations have come in, total? And of those, how many have actually been elected?

 

[eyebeams]

Nope

Thanks. Anybody else?

 

[Piratecat]

Here is a question for Morrus and the ENnies board? Do the EN World Moderators have access to see the forum where the judges hold their deliberations?

No. It's secure, and always has been; moderators can't even see it.

 

[Crothian]

As it stands right now, judges are forced to become EN World members if elected (heck, it is doubtful that a person could become a judge without becoming an EN World member and pimping themselves here) because all judge deliberations are held here on EN World rather than on the ENnies website (that is, IMO, where the judges should be having their deliberations) in a hidden forum.

Either they are forced to become EN World member or they are forced to join a message board on the ENnies site. This year Judge talk might happen on the ENnie site. I'm not sure that has been decided yet.

 

[mcrow]

13. How long have you been gaming? Does that affect the perspective you will be bringing to the judging table?

I started in 1989 so 17 years, soon to be 18. I think it does somewhat affect my perspective because I have seen and played so many different games that a product has to be truely outstanding (IMO, of course) if I get excited about it.

14. How much game design experience do you have? I don't mean published, I mean in general- 10 years of homebrewing? Have you created your own systems? Do you think this affects your level of qualification as a judge?

I have been homebrewing fromt the begining. I rarely use any published adventures or campaign settings, though I have bought and read them to steal what idea works for me. I have 3 systems that I have designed. One is d12 pool system, that uses only a d12. I also have a d20 variant geared to be used without minis. The last one is a percentile system, that is currently in developement. I think tinkering with your own systems and settings makes you a better judge because you can understand the ins and outs of other systems better. The more you tinker, the more you understand why systems do what they do. This also helps with being able evaluate a system without playing it. Since there are so many games entered, there is almost no way a judge could manage to play all the games.

15) Do you think that the ENnies should have a codified set of rules for how they should be run, including a specific list of points that the judges should use for each category? Or do you think that the ENnies should be like they are currently, and the judges voting on the rules each year? And to either answer, why?

I think it should stay the way it is now. I think from year to year things can change quote a lot and to have a rigid set of rules on judging could cause problems. So as long as they are voted on each year, it makes sure that the rules are never outdated.

16) Do you think that the ENnies being so intimately tied to the World's Largest d20 Fan Site might mean that the basic voting pool for the ENnies might be a bit biased towards d20 products in general?

Well, it might be that that EN World participates more than the other sites do in the voting, and since it is a primarily d20 fan site, it does stand to reason that d20 products have an edge. I'm doing my best to get the participation from the other sites up this year so that there is no question of whether or not the awards are d20 biased or not. Also, to be fair many of the past judges also played non-d20 games and I doubt they were out to get non-d20 games.

17) Do you think that the ENnies should move everything over to their own, independant website (which they already have), to have all aspects of the ENnies in 1 single central location? Why or why not?

The ENnies have their own site already. This just seems like a shot 2 the ENnies to me.

18) Do you think moving the ENnies off EN World would cause a drop in the overall number of voters?

We will find out, but I think this year will have more voters than any previous year.

19)I would like to know if any of the candidates have done paid games industry work, ever.

Nope.

 

[mcrow]

17 -- retake -- I wasn't talking about forcing anybody to restrict conversations to a single place, but making the ENnies site itself the clearing house for the major conversations, and for the judge deliberations. As it stands right now, judges are forced to become EN World members if elected (heck, it is doubtful that a person could become a judge without becoming an EN World member and pimping themselves here) because all judge deliberations are held here on EN World rather than on the ENnies website (that is, IMO, where the judges should be having their deliberations) in a hidden forum.

The deliberations have to be held someplace, does it really matter that it is done here?

Again, Rasyr this thread is for asking the ENnies judge Nominees questions that help people decide who they want to vote for, not for showing how much you dislike them.

 

[Rasyr]

Either they are forced to become EN World member or they are forced to join a message board on the ENnies site. This year Judge talk might happen on the ENnie site. I'm not sure that has been decided yet.

Right. My point was, if a prospective judge was not a d20 fan (first and foremost, or even slightly), which is MORE FAIR to that potential judge?

Making him register on a site devoted to something that he does not prefer/like (EN World/d20)

OR

making him register on a site dedicated to something that he is attempting to participate in (The ENnies)?


It doesn't matter if Morrus WANTS conversations regarding the ENnies to take place everywhere, if all of the most meaningful conversations ARE happening HERE, doesn't that at least imply to potential judges that they have to at least register here to even be considered?

For those nominees that are already registered here, this is not an issue, but might it possibly be an issue for those from other sites or for those potential judge nominees who might not like d20?

(Note: for the record, while I have some issues with what I see as limitations in the system, I do like d20, I just happen to prefer some other systems more.)

And yes, the above questions are for all judges...

 

[Morrus]

My point was, if a prospective judge was not a d20 fan (first and foremost, or even slightly), which is MORE FAIR to that potential judge?

The judges are inconvenienced significantly throughout the year, with all the work they need to do. They kindly volunteer their time and effort. While I'm sure all the potential judges are deeply moved by your concern for thier well-being, I believe it is up to a judge to decide if they feel they are being treated "unfairly" in some way.

For those nominees that are already registered here, this is not an issue, but might it possibly be an issue for those from other sites or for those potential judge nominees who might not like d20?

Sorry - are you referring to potential judges who feel that reading 100 d20 books is fine, but registering on a d20 site is against all that is good and holy? Why should an "objective" judge care where private discussions take place?

I would request that any judges who are biased to that extent make their bias known.

To beome a judge does not require visiting EN World. To vote for a judge does not require visiting EN World. To see the judge informaiton does not require visiting EN World. To vote for the products does not require visiting EN World. To see the winners does not require visiting EN World. To attend the awards ceremony does not require visiting EN World. To find out about the ENnies in general does not involve visiting EN World.

Everyone, in the interests of accurate information, please be aware of the above. I'm seeing too many people believing otherwise on various boards. If you see it being mentioned elsewhere, I'd appreciate it if people could spare a moment to provide accurate information - thanks!

 

[Crothian]

Right. My point was, if a prospective judge was not a d20 fan (first and foremost, or even slightly), which is MORE FAIR to that potential judge?

I don't consider myself a d20 fan first and foremost. I just have had primary D&D groups for the past 10 years. After being a judge there is quite a bit that is not fair. But on the flip side there were a few things that totally rocked. IMO registering to a site is a very small inconvenience at best. This year I've registered to a few more sites just to keep up with all the talk, so it isn't like this is the only place some potential judges have had to sign up on.