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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9429811" data-attributes="member: 58172">As I understand the 2024 rules, the Clerics draw their power from an "immortal force", in other words, some paradigm within the thoughtscape of the Astral Plane, principally the alignment planes. As a cosmic tenet, it should be a fundamental principle relating to existence, creation, survival, or purpose of living.If this force involves a personification, the person would necessarily be an "immortal" native of the Astral Plane, especially a Celestial or Fiend. If a player character became a saint, hero, demigod, or so on, maybe as an Epic Destiny, then one needs to die so the immortal soul is now in the Astral Plane free from the Material body, or else "transfigure" so the Material body translates into a new Astral nature to become a native of the Astral Plane.I think of this planeshifting astralization as a kind of immigration from the Material to become a naturalized citizen of the Astral. Compare how some Elf communities materialized from the Feywild spirit world to become natives of the Material Plane.When a player character becomes an Astral, an Immortal, one gains the Celestial or Fiend creature type. Depending on whether multiple creature types are possible in 2024, the character might therefore lose the Humanoid creature type.If a player character becomes a figure of a sacred tradition, it isnt oneself per se that is revered or worshiped, but the "immortal force" that the character has proven to attune to and unite with. This unity cant be faked − unless of course the cosmic principle is itself Deception or Trickery. The character must reliably demonstrate unity with the particular immortal force by notable actions during the Material life of the character. So that, the translation into an Astral creature type, whether Celestial or Fiend is already in place as part of the immortal force.Note, an ancestor who descendants revere is the immortal force of the "survival" of the family, tribe, or ethnicity that claims descent from the eponymous ancestor. Sometimes an individual ancestor also associates with an other specific immortal force as well.</blockquote>

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