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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9405553" data-attributes="member: 7030563">I mean if you want that&nbsp; particular spell earlier then play a Bard. What I love more than anything about 5E is the creative possibilities and the ability to do things better then &quot;the class&quot; that was designed to&nbsp; do it by sacrificing other things.A Paladin with Find Greater Steed is ho hum .... a&nbsp; Bard with it, now that is cool and really was the whole intent of the ability as I see it.It is basically a railroad taking options off the table.Magic Initiate is even worse because that is on all classes.&nbsp; Cool spells like Hex and Armor of Agathys won't be available, and TBH not having the Ranger and Paladin lists available with that feat was&nbsp; my major problem with the 2024 feat.&nbsp;&nbsp; Now they are taking Sorcerer and Warlock too.See for me, I am interested in expressing my take on the Bard, not the stereotype&nbsp; that WOTC thinks it is.&nbsp; It is the same reason I am so against Hunter's Mark as a class&nbsp; ability for Ranger and my guess is they are going to make Hex similar for Warlock, something that is built in.Bardic Inspiration is improved if it still recharges on a short rest after 5th level, which my bet is that it doesn't now.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9405553, member: 7030563"] I mean if you want that particular spell earlier then play a Bard. What I love more than anything about 5E is the creative possibilities and the ability to do things better then "the class" that was designed to do it by sacrificing other things. A Paladin with Find Greater Steed is ho hum .... a Bard with it, now that is cool and really was the whole intent of the ability as I see it. It is basically a railroad taking options off the table. Magic Initiate is even worse because that is on all classes. Cool spells like Hex and Armor of Agathys won't be available, and TBH not having the Ranger and Paladin lists available with that feat was my major problem with the 2024 feat. Now they are taking Sorcerer and Warlock too. See for me, I am interested in expressing my take on the Bard, not the stereotype that WOTC thinks it is. It is the same reason I am so against Hunter's Mark as a class ability for Ranger and my guess is they are going to make Hex similar for Warlock, something that is built in. Bardic Inspiration is improved if it still recharges on a short rest after 5th level, which my bet is that it doesn't now. [/QUOTE]

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