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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9400443" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Well... yes, but no.I get they keep trying to sell the two metamagics a turn as a huge boon, but...I don't buy it. First of all, you still have to PAY for both metamagics, so that will drain your resources very quickly. And, well, let's say you have Careful Spell, Extended Spell, Transmuted Spell and Empowered Spell (because one thing I will give the playtest is that they made many of the metamagics much more desirable) This means that you can change the damage type of a spell, re-roll the damage of a spell, avoid harming your allies with a spell, or increase the duration and gain advantage on concentration checks for a spell. How often will you benefit from having two of these at once? Additionally, re-rolling the damage can already be done with another, so it isn't even a consideration. So, how often will you need to change the damage type of your spell AND avoid hitting allies? Or change the damage type and have advantage on concentration? It will happen, sure, but will it come up often enough to be game changing for the sorcerer? Or will it just be a sort of nice side benefit? Most Metamagics just don't play well together, and the times when using multiple of them make sense and will have an impact feels small to me. I hope I'm wrong, but that is my gut instinct on the matter.</blockquote>