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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hohige" data-source="post: 8167428" data-attributes="member: 7019463">I suggest you to create/show a build that could effectively challenge the DEMIGOD.Unfortunately, nothing you posted would work against him.He has many defenses, it is difficult to beat him.1) The best defende of all.First and the strongest defense of the sorcerer is deception and disguise. It has effectively a improved mirror image with more than 60 clones that is disguised magically and mundane. Subtle Spells allows him to cast spells freely without reveal himself.It also can be everyone, including your ally. +17 Deception check, Actor feat, Disguise kit, Magical Guidance, Extended Seeming spell is pretty hard to deal with it.2) The Demigod real HP is 714. He doesn't fear creatures damage. If Sharpshooter and Greater Master Weapon one attacks the sorcerer, the sorcerer deals more than 260 damage at 660ft.If close enough, It's more than 1.000 damage per turn with his minions. The bard can't survive more than a turn.3) The bard will need fly and cast a spell against him, but the sorcerer blasts at 660fts and can fly. All spells mentioned can be counterspelled.Also, It's pretty hard to keep concentration dealing with more than 1000 damage per turn.</blockquote>