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<blockquote data-quote="Hohige" data-source="post: 8169454" data-attributes="member: 7019463"><p>Well, The Wizard failed miserably.</p><p>You didn't detail how you're going to do any of this or how you're going to beat Sorcerer's defenses.</p><p>You didn't understand how Wish works.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Wish:</p><p>The DM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance, the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. This <strong>spell might simply fail</strong>, the effect you desire might only be partly achieved, or you might suffer some <strong>unforeseen </strong>consequence as a result of how you worded the wish. <strong>For example, wishing that a villain were dead might propel you forward in time to a period when that villain is no longer alive, effectively removing you from the game. Similarly, wishing for a legendary magic item or artifact might instantly transport you to the presence of the item's current owner.</strong></p><p></p><p>"Emphasis mine":</p><p></p><p>Wish one) one simulacrum casts <em>wish</em> to turn off the sorcerer's magic</p><p></p><p>Unforeseen Consequence 1)</p><p>Sorcerer is a pure magical creature and is the same kind of magic that comes from you. You just dispell him and his Simulacrum, but also your spells and Simulacruns.</p><p></p><p>Unforeseen Consequence 2)</p><p>The Sorcerer born with magic, teleports in universe to where that sorcerer doesn't exist, effectively removing you from the game.</p><p></p><p>Unforeseen Consequence 3) The World doesn't exist without magic. The Wish fails.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Other problem that breaks the Simulacrum-cheese.</p><p></p><p><strong>Wish Spell:</strong></p><p>"Wish is the mightiest spell a <strong>mortal creature</strong> can cast"</p><p>The Simulacrum is a construct, they can't cast it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL :ROFLMAO:" data-smilie="18"data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No type of Wish outside of duplicating spells works as you think.</p><p>It is clear to me that a Wizard cannot defeat the Sorcerer.</p><p>Cleric and Wizard "DM, please, Help me".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hohige, post: 8169454, member: 7019463"] Well, The Wizard failed miserably. You didn't detail how you're going to do any of this or how you're going to beat Sorcerer's defenses. You didn't understand how Wish works. Wish: The DM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance, the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. This [B]spell might simply fail[/B], the effect you desire might only be partly achieved, or you might suffer some [B]unforeseen [/B]consequence as a result of how you worded the wish. [B]For example, wishing that a villain were dead might propel you forward in time to a period when that villain is no longer alive, effectively removing you from the game. Similarly, wishing for a legendary magic item or artifact might instantly transport you to the presence of the item's current owner.[/B] "Emphasis mine": Wish one) one simulacrum casts [I]wish[/I] to turn off the sorcerer's magic Unforeseen Consequence 1) Sorcerer is a pure magical creature and is the same kind of magic that comes from you. You just dispell him and his Simulacrum, but also your spells and Simulacruns. Unforeseen Consequence 2) The Sorcerer born with magic, teleports in universe to where that sorcerer doesn't exist, effectively removing you from the game. Unforeseen Consequence 3) The World doesn't exist without magic. The Wish fails. Other problem that breaks the Simulacrum-cheese. [B]Wish Spell:[/B] "Wish is the mightiest spell a [B]mortal creature[/B] can cast" The Simulacrum is a construct, they can't cast it. :ROFLMAO: No type of Wish outside of duplicating spells works as you think. It is clear to me that a Wizard cannot defeat the Sorcerer. Cleric and Wizard "DM, please, Help me". [/QUOTE]
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