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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8169724" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Wait, who Wished it? The Sorcerer? So, the Sorcerer is daily down their 8th and 9th level spells. Cool, Wizard waits until the Celestials despawn, waits for you to recast them, then hits, because you don't have Mind Blank up.</p><p></p><p>The Wizard is dictating the timing, here.</p><p></p><p>Which we don't care about. </p><p></p><p>Um, no, you regain Sorcery Points on a long rest, not a short one. You have to sleep. And the Sim can't just burn slots for points -- they'll run out real fast and you can't really afford to be using your wish to replace Sims.</p><p></p><p>Mighty Fortress doesn't block scrying.</p><p></p><p>No, they don't, because that's not how Disguise works. The Magen don't have wings, for one, which you can't Disguise kit into not noticing. Secondly, the celestials are large, so disguising them doesn't work. So, you can maybe make the DMM sim, you sim, and you look the same, but the DMM doesn't have wings either. Since you're flying, this is critical -- I can ID you and your sim from the rest of the minions reliably.</p><p></p><p>And, that's even easier, because you're mind blanked and the sim isn't, so if I can scry one, it's not you -- you're the other one that look exactly alike.</p><p></p><p>Disguise is handy, but you were leaning heavily on the Seeming to paper over these problems in appearance that can't be covered by disguises.</p><p></p><p>Ah, you're never within 40' of the ground -- good to know. And all of that nonesense about Mighty Fortress is pointless, because you're never on the ground! Also, I guess you sleep and eat and poop while flying above 40' at all times? Yeah, no long rests for you!</p><p></p><p>As for the spell, there's a bit of interpretation there that you're bending heavily in your direction, like you do. </p><p></p><p>Again, the wizard has the initiative here, so the encounter takes place when it's optimal for the wizard. </p><p></p><p>Yeah, you covered that and are now just repeating yourself. The Wizard picked a better time.</p><p></p><p>You don't have an 8th level slot to PWS.</p><p></p><p>Oh, it worked, because I was able to accurately identify you, and then time the strike when it would work best. Alternatively, I could have just popped in, dispelled you at 9th level, and then cast Power Word Stun on you -- you have fewer that 150 hp now. That incapacitates you, which disables your wings, and you're pretty high up, right?</p><p></p><p>One more thing -- the Summoned and Bound Celestials? They're not loyal. They have to follow your commands, but they'll try to twist them. This is because they're good, and you're pretty evil, what with the Finger of Death army, so they're not friends. Your minions aren't perfectly loyal! Haha, and I haven't even brought my actually loyal minions in yet!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8169724, member: 16814"] Wait, who Wished it? The Sorcerer? So, the Sorcerer is daily down their 8th and 9th level spells. Cool, Wizard waits until the Celestials despawn, waits for you to recast them, then hits, because you don't have Mind Blank up. The Wizard is dictating the timing, here. Which we don't care about. Um, no, you regain Sorcery Points on a long rest, not a short one. You have to sleep. And the Sim can't just burn slots for points -- they'll run out real fast and you can't really afford to be using your wish to replace Sims. Mighty Fortress doesn't block scrying. No, they don't, because that's not how Disguise works. The Magen don't have wings, for one, which you can't Disguise kit into not noticing. Secondly, the celestials are large, so disguising them doesn't work. So, you can maybe make the DMM sim, you sim, and you look the same, but the DMM doesn't have wings either. Since you're flying, this is critical -- I can ID you and your sim from the rest of the minions reliably. And, that's even easier, because you're mind blanked and the sim isn't, so if I can scry one, it's not you -- you're the other one that look exactly alike. Disguise is handy, but you were leaning heavily on the Seeming to paper over these problems in appearance that can't be covered by disguises. Ah, you're never within 40' of the ground -- good to know. And all of that nonesense about Mighty Fortress is pointless, because you're never on the ground! Also, I guess you sleep and eat and poop while flying above 40' at all times? Yeah, no long rests for you! As for the spell, there's a bit of interpretation there that you're bending heavily in your direction, like you do. Again, the wizard has the initiative here, so the encounter takes place when it's optimal for the wizard. Yeah, you covered that and are now just repeating yourself. The Wizard picked a better time. You don't have an 8th level slot to PWS. Oh, it worked, because I was able to accurately identify you, and then time the strike when it would work best. Alternatively, I could have just popped in, dispelled you at 9th level, and then cast Power Word Stun on you -- you have fewer that 150 hp now. That incapacitates you, which disables your wings, and you're pretty high up, right? One more thing -- the Summoned and Bound Celestials? They're not loyal. They have to follow your commands, but they'll try to twist them. This is because they're good, and you're pretty evil, what with the Finger of Death army, so they're not friends. Your minions aren't perfectly loyal! Haha, and I haven't even brought my actually loyal minions in yet! [/QUOTE]
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