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<blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 8172510" data-attributes="member: 42856"><p>The build sounds legal, but with a very high maintenance cost.</p><p></p><p>1. He's always under twinned Mind Blank, so no 9th level slot.</p><p>2. Every 10 days, he must recast his Contingency, which require a Wish, so he loses Mind Blank every 10 days for a day.</p><p>3. He's resting within his Demiplane daily, so he can be undetectable during that prep time for spells that last for a long time), so he must always reserve his 8th level spell slot for that use at the end of the day.</p><p>4. He needs to exit his Demiplane after rest, but the door closed 7 hours ago, so he needs to Planeshift back to the Prime (7th level spell slot) which doesn't allow for a precise location to get back, unless you follow with Teleport to the last place you were (and you took a pebble from there to guide the Teleport Spell to perfect accuracy) (another 7th level spell slot). BUT...</p><p>5. He is Ethereal for 16h a day, which is cool (and probably his main defense), but it needs the 7th level spell slot as well... So no Teleport, so he's getting back semi-randomly from the place he wants do be each morning... </p><p></p><p>So the sorcerer has no real mean of interacting with the world as he's Ethereal all the time except for one round a day, when he casts Demiplane and crosses the door to enter it as his move action. He has also poor control on where he is each day, only in the general vicinity of the places he wishes to be, which can be very close or quite far away, depending on GM's whim. And since it's forbidden to appeal to GM, we must assume a middle road of arriving neither at destination nor across a sea from his destination... </p><p></p><p>He has no usable 9th, 8th, 7th level spells slots.</p><p></p><p>He casts 8 extended Armor of Agathys a day (8 SP) so he needs to spend, 8 Pass without trace (8 SP and constant concentration) and 1 Extended Aid (upcast to 6th level for 25 HP) for 1 SP. That's 17 SP, but he needs also 8 1st-level and 2nd-level slots, of which he only has 4 and 3, which means resetting them with SP as well for 8 and 15 SP respectively. He's spending an ungodly 40 SP a day. That means he must spend all of his daily allotment, plus take 5 short rest a day, and it leaves him with 0 SP and the following usable spell slots:</p><p></p><p>1st level: 0</p><p>2nd level: 0</p><p>3rd level: 3</p><p>4th level: 3</p><p>5th level: 3</p><p>6th level: 1</p><p>7th level :0</p><p>8th level: 0</p><p>9th level: 0</p><p></p><p>OK, since he's staying all the time in the Ethereal and seeks to interact as little as possible with the world, he doesn't really NEED spell slots, but that put a serious difficulty on his world domination plans. </p><p></p><p>If the build is to become unkillable and unable to interact, there are several easier build... One could cast imprisonment on oneself and chose the Hedged Prison, or one could Wish to become the colour blue... But anyway, let's deal with him.</p><p></p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr></table></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jfdlsjfd, post: 8172510, member: 42856"] The build sounds legal, but with a very high maintenance cost. 1. He's always under twinned Mind Blank, so no 9th level slot. 2. Every 10 days, he must recast his Contingency, which require a Wish, so he loses Mind Blank every 10 days for a day. 3. He's resting within his Demiplane daily, so he can be undetectable during that prep time for spells that last for a long time), so he must always reserve his 8th level spell slot for that use at the end of the day. 4. He needs to exit his Demiplane after rest, but the door closed 7 hours ago, so he needs to Planeshift back to the Prime (7th level spell slot) which doesn't allow for a precise location to get back, unless you follow with Teleport to the last place you were (and you took a pebble from there to guide the Teleport Spell to perfect accuracy) (another 7th level spell slot). BUT... 5. He is Ethereal for 16h a day, which is cool (and probably his main defense), but it needs the 7th level spell slot as well... So no Teleport, so he's getting back semi-randomly from the place he wants do be each morning... So the sorcerer has no real mean of interacting with the world as he's Ethereal all the time except for one round a day, when he casts Demiplane and crosses the door to enter it as his move action. He has also poor control on where he is each day, only in the general vicinity of the places he wishes to be, which can be very close or quite far away, depending on GM's whim. And since it's forbidden to appeal to GM, we must assume a middle road of arriving neither at destination nor across a sea from his destination... He has no usable 9th, 8th, 7th level spells slots. He casts 8 extended Armor of Agathys a day (8 SP) so he needs to spend, 8 Pass without trace (8 SP and constant concentration) and 1 Extended Aid (upcast to 6th level for 25 HP) for 1 SP. That's 17 SP, but he needs also 8 1st-level and 2nd-level slots, of which he only has 4 and 3, which means resetting them with SP as well for 8 and 15 SP respectively. He's spending an ungodly 40 SP a day. That means he must spend all of his daily allotment, plus take 5 short rest a day, and it leaves him with 0 SP and the following usable spell slots: 1st level: 0 2nd level: 0 3rd level: 3 4th level: 3 5th level: 3 6th level: 1 7th level :0 8th level: 0 9th level: 0 OK, since he's staying all the time in the Ethereal and seeks to interact as little as possible with the world, he doesn't really NEED spell slots, but that put a serious difficulty on his world domination plans. If the build is to become unkillable and unable to interact, there are several easier build... One could cast imprisonment on oneself and chose the Hedged Prison, or one could Wish to become the colour blue... But anyway, let's deal with him. [TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/QUOTE]
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