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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8174956" data-attributes="member: 6788736">If he does that he's vulnerable to scrying (choose one of his simulacra or magens as your target - you'll see them listening intently to something, even if you cant see or hear whats doing the talking).He basically stuck hiding in a room alone (or with other mind blanked creatures) playing solitaire and spamming mind blank repeatedly till he dies, and nervously looking over his shoulder for a Dragonborn Cleric to appear and smack him silly.That's a fate worse than death really.If we really want to speed things up, a 20th level Diviner (on a day where he rolled a ew '1s' for its foretellings) could simply abduct a minion (via Scrying, and Legend Lore, and then Plane Shift) and then cast Dominate Monster on the minion (ordering it to return to its master) forcing it into a save result of '1', followed by casting Magic Jar and then Plane Shifting it back to the Material plane near the Sorcerer Kings lair (holding both the Magic Jar, and the giant rubber mace shaped shaped like a phallus)As soon as the Dominated minion gets within 100' of the cowering Sorcerer King, you posses the Sorcerer King from your Magic Jar, foretelling his saving throw result into a roll of 1.Then you order your minion to beat yourself to death with the giant rubber mace shaped like a phallus.Works the same I guess.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8174956, member: 6788736"] If he does that he's vulnerable to scrying (choose one of his simulacra or magens as your target - you'll see them listening intently to something, even if you cant see or hear whats doing the talking). He basically stuck hiding in a room alone (or with other mind blanked creatures) playing solitaire and spamming mind blank repeatedly till he dies, and nervously looking over his shoulder for a Dragonborn Cleric to appear and smack him silly. That's a fate worse than death really. If we really want to speed things up, a [B]20th level Diviner [/B](on a day where he rolled a ew '1s' for its foretellings) could simply abduct a minion (via [I]Scrying[/I], and [I]Legend Lore, [/I]and then [I]Plane Shift[/I]) and then cast [I]Dominate Monster[/I] on the minion (ordering it to return to its master) forcing it into a save result of '1', followed by casting [I]Magic Jar[/I] and then [I]Plane Shifting[/I] it back to the Material plane near the Sorcerer Kings lair (holding both the Magic Jar, and the giant rubber mace shaped shaped like a phallus) As soon as the Dominated minion gets within 100' of the cowering Sorcerer King, you posses the Sorcerer King from your Magic Jar, foretelling his saving throw result into a roll of 1. Then you order your minion to beat yourself to death with the giant rubber mace shaped like a phallus. Works the same I guess. [/QUOTE]

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