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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8175675" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>Don't lie, you don't play the game with real people at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Dex and Con would <strong>both </strong>need to be 16 for that AC and HP which kind of limits your Charisma to not also being 16 seeing as you havent taken any ASI.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fireball is counter spelled by the Diviner Wizard (metamagic adept subtle, Alert), which you cant counter in return seeing as you used a bonus action spell this turn, limiting additional spellcasting by you this turn to a cantrip, which counterspell is not.</p><p></p><p>The Diviner then <em>subtle </em>spell summons a Balgura with a level 4 slot, an orders it to wail on the Sorcerer, which it does (3 attacks at advantage at +7)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fireball is Subtle spell counter spelled.</p><p></p><p>You now have used 4 SP for 2 x Quickens, and 2 for Empowers, and both x 4th level slots.</p><p></p><p>I've used 2 x 4ths and a 3rd.</p><p></p><p>On my turn you're <em>lighting bolted,</em> with my remaining 3rd level slot, and your Save and Ability check (if you attempt to counter it) is replaced with my foretelling results of '1'.</p><p></p><p>The Balgura then wails on you again. You're dead.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8175675, member: 6788736"] Don't lie, you don't play the game with real people at all. Dex and Con would [B]both [/B]need to be 16 for that AC and HP which kind of limits your Charisma to not also being 16 seeing as you havent taken any ASI. Fireball is counter spelled by the Diviner Wizard (metamagic adept subtle, Alert), which you cant counter in return seeing as you used a bonus action spell this turn, limiting additional spellcasting by you this turn to a cantrip, which counterspell is not. The Diviner then [I]subtle [/I]spell summons a Balgura with a level 4 slot, an orders it to wail on the Sorcerer, which it does (3 attacks at advantage at +7) Fireball is Subtle spell counter spelled. You now have used 4 SP for 2 x Quickens, and 2 for Empowers, and both x 4th level slots. I've used 2 x 4ths and a 3rd. On my turn you're [I]lighting bolted,[/I] with my remaining 3rd level slot, and your Save and Ability check (if you attempt to counter it) is replaced with my foretelling results of '1'. The Balgura then wails on you again. You're dead. [/QUOTE]
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