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<blockquote data-quote="Gammadoodler" data-source="post: 8175749" data-attributes="member: 6914290"><p>Yes..it is a rogue's job, and all it takes for a sorcerer to match it for 1 relevant skill out of the 4 or so skills that apply to stealth and detection for 1 minute out of the 1440 minutes in the day is a 5th level spell and the use of a class feature.</p><p></p><p>Skill Empowerment and pass without a trace are both concentration spells, which means your sorcerer can only be rogue-level good at hiding or seeking at a time, while the rogue is rogue-level good at those things always (and 1/SR can just choose to max roll on <em>any</em> skill)</p><p></p><p>If he's detected, greater invisibility does nothing for him, because stroke of luck let's rogues turn misses into hits.</p><p></p><p>Besides all this, so far all you've described is a way for your sorcerer to spend a bunch of resources to <em>maybe</em> beat a featless raceless subclassless rogue at hide and seek. You still haven't demonstrated how your sorcerer actually does any harm to that rogue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gammadoodler, post: 8175749, member: 6914290"] Yes..it is a rogue's job, and all it takes for a sorcerer to match it for 1 relevant skill out of the 4 or so skills that apply to stealth and detection for 1 minute out of the 1440 minutes in the day is a 5th level spell and the use of a class feature. Skill Empowerment and pass without a trace are both concentration spells, which means your sorcerer can only be rogue-level good at hiding or seeking at a time, while the rogue is rogue-level good at those things always (and 1/SR can just choose to max roll on [I]any[/I] skill) If he's detected, greater invisibility does nothing for him, because stroke of luck let's rogues turn misses into hits. Besides all this, so far all you've described is a way for your sorcerer to spend a bunch of resources to [I]maybe[/I] beat a featless raceless subclassless rogue at hide and seek. You still haven't demonstrated how your sorcerer actually does any harm to that rogue. [/QUOTE]
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