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<blockquote data-quote="prabe" data-source="post: 8176708" data-attributes="member: 7016699"><p>Any wizard with Alert feat is unsurprised, and there are ways (I can think of at least three, with some overlap) to at least improve the odds of having a better initiative than your Bastion. If we're building wizards to be paranoid (which isn't fun, but whatever) then Sorcerer Initiate for a couple points and subtle-cast Teleport to get away or any of a number of other spells before your Bastion has a turn.</p><p></p><p>But that's not real important. What I persist in noticing is that you keep not responding to what a fair fight really--the way to test your build--is: No <em>wish</em>, no <em>simulacrum</em>, pick a starting distance and roll Initiative. You don't want that. You want all the time in the world to prep your character (because your DM likes you, I guess) and you don't want to allow the wizard any similar opportunity (mainly because when they have that opportunity the sorcerer dies, I suppose).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="prabe, post: 8176708, member: 7016699"] Any wizard with Alert feat is unsurprised, and there are ways (I can think of at least three, with some overlap) to at least improve the odds of having a better initiative than your Bastion. If we're building wizards to be paranoid (which isn't fun, but whatever) then Sorcerer Initiate for a couple points and subtle-cast Teleport to get away or any of a number of other spells before your Bastion has a turn. But that's not real important. What I persist in noticing is that you keep not responding to what a fair fight really--the way to test your build--is: No [I]wish[/I], no [I]simulacrum[/I], pick a starting distance and roll Initiative. You don't want that. You want all the time in the world to prep your character (because your DM likes you, I guess) and you don't want to allow the wizard any similar opportunity (mainly because when they have that opportunity the sorcerer dies, I suppose). [/QUOTE]
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