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<blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 8192228" data-attributes="member: 42856"><p>This is a decisively weak build.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your claim that previous build were not to be taken into account nullifies this claim. You can't say something changed and then say "I already explained it".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet, as he claims to be able to defeat anyone, especially any wizard, he must have a modus operandi to confront wizard. It is your job to explain it. Anything that isn't posted doesn't exist (like, when a wizard build doesn't have a prepared spell mentionned, he can't cast it because it's reputed not to exist).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, as you failed to provide ability score, he has 0 in all stats, so a big big malus to Stealth. You claim to have advantage without substianting how. You claim to have magical guidance, but magical guidance can't be used within the context of your rules. Magical Guidance is an optional feature introduced in Tasha, which states that "Y<em>ou gain class features in the Player's Handbook when you reach certain levels in your class. This section offers additional features that you can gain as a sorcerer. Unlike the features in the Player's Handbook, you don't gain the features here automatically.</em>" To get these you must "<em>consult with your DM</em>". Since he has absolutely no agency under the rules you defined, or to quote your "he doesn't exist", you can't consult with him. Nor can he, BTW, decides if circumstances are appropriate to hiding.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Since, to quote your own words "<em>I will repeat, without DM this game does not exist. No skill check. DM fiat spell as Wish: "I won", Divine Intervetion "I won" or receive any information. Did you understand what I say about DM fiat?</em>" we must conclude that the DM doesn't exist. Therefore, he can't decide if circumstances are approriate for hiding. Therefore, you can never hide with your rules. It wouldn't be the case if it was worded like "The DM decides if circumstances disallow hiding" because in this case the absence of a DM would lead to automatic ability to hide in all circumstances. But that's not the way the rules are written.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am questionning "etc." How can you have more than 4 skills you're proficient with? Your build doesn't mention taking any feat, so you have none. You explicitely told that the last feat list you posted was an old one that was changed and you were adamant that it shouldn't be taken into account. Your new, complete build, lacks any feat. So what are the "etc." skills your proficient with and how?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Those spells aren't on your non-existent spell list. Post it as you agreed to post a complete, legal build.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Explain how you acquire the tremendous material cost of this activity without any of your partner being undetectable.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, so anything goes, and since there is nothing Sorcerer specific in this, it is granted to wizard as well. Why not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. Wizards and Sorcerer gets any Simulacrum they want. It's clear. The rest of your build isn't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On what ground? How do you succeed at passing a CON save of 35, for example, should you incur a lot of damage and need to keep concentration? Especially with 0 CON score.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, so that means the Simulacrum absolutely never cast spell that have a visual trigger and that would make it stop being hidden. All he does is stand ready to cast Dispel Magic on the Sorcerer or Greater Restoration. Too bad you didn't provide a spell known list so those spell can't be cast.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course. Too bad you didn't provide a spell list so neither Greater Invisibility nor Contingency can be cast.</p><p></p><p></p><p>True.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except that it has no stats.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It would actually increase its INT and CHA score, which are currently 0, because you didn't provide the build.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, you don't have Mind Blank all the time, only in situation that you'll mention in a clarification post. Until then, no mind blank.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Possibly, but you'd need to have cast it beforehand. And you didn't provide a strategy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, it will work with your absymal saving throw and the fact that you didn't explain the circumstances in which you cast Mind Blank, so it's never on, and it's not on your non-existent spell list.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not on your non-existent spell list.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You explained it was Wished for. Yet, the wish spell isn't on your non-existent spell list so you can't cast it. You even didn't mention the word wish it in this supposedly recaptitulation post.</p><p></p><p>You obviously have a lot of work before providing a build. That was a boast, no a build. Have you ever seen a D&D charsheet? It's the information on it we need to provide you with build that you'll have to defeat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jfdlsjfd, post: 8192228, member: 42856"] This is a decisively weak build. Your claim that previous build were not to be taken into account nullifies this claim. You can't say something changed and then say "I already explained it". Yet, as he claims to be able to defeat anyone, especially any wizard, he must have a modus operandi to confront wizard. It is your job to explain it. Anything that isn't posted doesn't exist (like, when a wizard build doesn't have a prepared spell mentionned, he can't cast it because it's reputed not to exist). No, as you failed to provide ability score, he has 0 in all stats, so a big big malus to Stealth. You claim to have advantage without substianting how. You claim to have magical guidance, but magical guidance can't be used within the context of your rules. Magical Guidance is an optional feature introduced in Tasha, which states that "Y[I]ou gain class features in the Player's Handbook when you reach certain levels in your class. This section offers additional features that you can gain as a sorcerer. Unlike the features in the Player's Handbook, you don't gain the features here automatically.[/I]" To get these you must "[I]consult with your DM[/I]". Since he has absolutely no agency under the rules you defined, or to quote your "he doesn't exist", you can't consult with him. Nor can he, BTW, decides if circumstances are appropriate to hiding. Since, to quote your own words "[I]I will repeat, without DM this game does not exist. No skill check. DM fiat spell as Wish: "I won", Divine Intervetion "I won" or receive any information. Did you understand what I say about DM fiat?[/I]" we must conclude that the DM doesn't exist. Therefore, he can't decide if circumstances are approriate for hiding. Therefore, you can never hide with your rules. It wouldn't be the case if it was worded like "The DM decides if circumstances disallow hiding" because in this case the absence of a DM would lead to automatic ability to hide in all circumstances. But that's not the way the rules are written. I am questionning "etc." How can you have more than 4 skills you're proficient with? Your build doesn't mention taking any feat, so you have none. You explicitely told that the last feat list you posted was an old one that was changed and you were adamant that it shouldn't be taken into account. Your new, complete build, lacks any feat. So what are the "etc." skills your proficient with and how? Those spells aren't on your non-existent spell list. Post it as you agreed to post a complete, legal build. Explain how you acquire the tremendous material cost of this activity without any of your partner being undetectable. OK, so anything goes, and since there is nothing Sorcerer specific in this, it is granted to wizard as well. Why not. Yes. Wizards and Sorcerer gets any Simulacrum they want. It's clear. The rest of your build isn't. On what ground? How do you succeed at passing a CON save of 35, for example, should you incur a lot of damage and need to keep concentration? Especially with 0 CON score. OK, so that means the Simulacrum absolutely never cast spell that have a visual trigger and that would make it stop being hidden. All he does is stand ready to cast Dispel Magic on the Sorcerer or Greater Restoration. Too bad you didn't provide a spell known list so those spell can't be cast. Of course. Too bad you didn't provide a spell list so neither Greater Invisibility nor Contingency can be cast. True. Except that it has no stats. It would actually increase its INT and CHA score, which are currently 0, because you didn't provide the build. So, you don't have Mind Blank all the time, only in situation that you'll mention in a clarification post. Until then, no mind blank. Possibly, but you'd need to have cast it beforehand. And you didn't provide a strategy. Well, it will work with your absymal saving throw and the fact that you didn't explain the circumstances in which you cast Mind Blank, so it's never on, and it's not on your non-existent spell list. Not on your non-existent spell list. You explained it was Wished for. Yet, the wish spell isn't on your non-existent spell list so you can't cast it. You even didn't mention the word wish it in this supposedly recaptitulation post. You obviously have a lot of work before providing a build. That was a boast, no a build. Have you ever seen a D&D charsheet? It's the information on it we need to provide you with build that you'll have to defeat. [/QUOTE]
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