WayneLigon
Adventurer
Tetsubo said:
No, it's not. Again, see difference between what's realistic and dramatically appropriate, and why filmakers use the latter more frequently. It's not laziness, it's how fiction works.
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28 Weeks Later
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No, it's not. Again, see difference between what's realistic and dramatically appropriate, and why filmakers use the latter more frequently. It's not laziness, it's how fiction works.
frankthedm
First Post
For me, the first had too much drama and dragged ass too often, much like Reign of Fire. Is this one much faster paced?
jonathan swift
First Post
frankthedm said:
Much faster. For me though the first one was probably the most perfectly paced film ever. I did really enjoy this one though.
Barendd Nobeard
Explorer
Yes.frankthedm said:
In a bad way. Every bad cliche of horror films is in there. The one plot twist that might be interesting is telegraphed so obviously that it's not a twist. And then handled so amateurishly as to be laughable. The movie was only 90 minutes long, but it felt like three hours (remember: in a bad way). There is no development of any character--it's just 90 minutes of inanity with some gore. The film is filled with characters making stupid decisions that make no sense given the situation (an American military lock down of London, which they are busy trying to repopulate with all the survivors who were off-island when the plague first broke out). And inexplicable situations. I am avoiding detail so as not to spoil it for anyone who wants to see it. But my suggestion is to see something else. If you must see this film, wait for a cheap DVD rental.
And the most predictable ending--I really expected better. The first film had that great third act with Major West (was that his name?) and the soldiers. I forgave the "stupid things in horror films" problems because that third act was something fresh for a horror genre (at least for me). This one, however, gave me no such joy.
What makes it worse, I think, is the opening. A very nice few minutes which, unfortunately, I had seen online (it was a preview, I think on the film's official web site). The rest of the movie can't live up to the first five minutes. Not even close.
I really,really,really hated this movie. The only redeeming feature: it wasn't as bad as Spiderman 3. Well, actually, maybe that's not true. I probably had higher hopes for Spidey 3 was, thus, fell harder in my disappointment. Thank god I saw Hot Fuzz immediately after 28 Weeks Later. Two hours went by so fast it felt like 40 minutes.
RangerWickett
Legend
I will likely not see this movie. However, I have an easy solution for how the 'rage' works. It's not just viral -- it's also chemical.
You get bitten. The chemical gets into your blood stream, goes to your brain, and freaks out with your neurons, causing you to go into a violent, adrenaline-fueled rage. Then the virus gets into your cells, causing you to start producing more of the chemical and the virus. I'm sure it's possible to have a chemical that drives people into a rage, and it's possible to have a virus that makes your cells create that chemical.
Basically when you get bit you're poisoned and infected.
You get bitten. The chemical gets into your blood stream, goes to your brain, and freaks out with your neurons, causing you to go into a violent, adrenaline-fueled rage. Then the virus gets into your cells, causing you to start producing more of the chemical and the virus. I'm sure it's possible to have a chemical that drives people into a rage, and it's possible to have a virus that makes your cells create that chemical.
Basically when you get bit you're poisoned and infected.
Tetsubo
First Post
WayneLigon said:
Which may well explain why I no longer read fiction or comic books...
If the movie had been set in an alternate universe where the current laws of biology didn't work I wouldn't have had a problem. But its set HERE. And in the real world, biology has very specific ways of doing things. Violate those methods and you are going to cheese me off. I see it as sloppy film making. You are more forgiving then I...
This is why I love Kill Bill so much. It IS an alternate universe and it is completely internally consistent.
Once it was over, my first reaction to it was "stupidest movie I've ever seen".
And it wasn't because of the idiotic movie science - I work with real viruses for a living, if I got upset at every way movies and TV series don't match reality, my blood pressure would probably have killed me by now. The thing to do, for me, has always been to just shrug and move on, and maybe laugh about it with the co-workers over lunch.
The actual problems were the following:
1. A very good beginning, completely wasted.
2. Weak and predictable plot.
3. No meaningful character development.
4. Plot threads - such as they were - left to wither and die with no resoultion.
5. What little point there was to the movie was rendered meaningless by the useless ending.
6. Not enough action (never mind good action) to make it enjoyable as a mindless zombie flick. Those blood-spewing rage victims are scary the first time you see them, by the end of the movie they border on unintentionally comical.
I actually thought Spiderman 3 was better, because it at least had a couple of genuinely fun action scenes, though I suppose if you look at wasted potential, perhaps 28 Weeks comes out ahead after all...
Oh well - there's still Pirates of the Carribbean 3 to look forward to - I liked the second one, even if it wasn't as good as the first, Johnny Depp is always a trip as Sparrow, Geoffrey Rush is back as Barbossa, and if all else fails, it should at least have some fun action scenes. Oh, and the monkey. Monkeys make everything better.
And it wasn't because of the idiotic movie science - I work with real viruses for a living, if I got upset at every way movies and TV series don't match reality, my blood pressure would probably have killed me by now. The thing to do, for me, has always been to just shrug and move on, and maybe laugh about it with the co-workers over lunch.
The actual problems were the following:
1. A very good beginning, completely wasted.
2. Weak and predictable plot.
3. No meaningful character development.
4. Plot threads - such as they were - left to wither and die with no resoultion.
5. What little point there was to the movie was rendered meaningless by the useless ending.
6. Not enough action (never mind good action) to make it enjoyable as a mindless zombie flick. Those blood-spewing rage victims are scary the first time you see them, by the end of the movie they border on unintentionally comical.
I actually thought Spiderman 3 was better, because it at least had a couple of genuinely fun action scenes, though I suppose if you look at wasted potential, perhaps 28 Weeks comes out ahead after all...
Oh well - there's still Pirates of the Carribbean 3 to look forward to - I liked the second one, even if it wasn't as good as the first, Johnny Depp is always a trip as Sparrow, Geoffrey Rush is back as Barbossa, and if all else fails, it should at least have some fun action scenes. Oh, and the monkey. Monkeys make everything better.
