28 Weeks Later

[hexgrid]

Yeah, i know silly, but it just really steams me up. But you're talking to a guy whom has George Romero's picture framed on a wall. It irks me to hear people talking about the first movie talking about how great a zombie movie it was when it wasa really good text book mutant survival movie.

Is "mutant survival" really an established film genre? I've never heard the term before. What are other examples?

Personally, if I had to describe 28 Days/Weeks Later to someone who had never heard of them before, I'd have a hard time not using the word "zombie" at some point.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

It irks me to hear people talking about the first movie talking about how great a zombie movie it was when it wasa really good text book mutant survival movie.

If it helps any, I'm right with you. I keep reading reviews pointing out that it's a zombie movie and it just bugs me no end. I'm like "did you actually see either of the movies?"

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Like explaining that The Force is caused by little beasties floating around in your blood...

Me'sa cannot believe you opened that can o' worms, Tetsubo!

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Is "mutant survival" really an established film genre? I've never heard the term before. What are other examples?

C.H.U.D.
Class of Nuke 'Em High

 

[Tetsubo]

Me'sa cannot believe you opened that can o' worms, Tetsubo!

I'm a glutton for punishment...

But seriously, the rage virus is absurd. I would have "bought" it if the movie had been written as a comedy. But as a horror or SF film... it's just silly...

 

[Mallus]

I like the Romero version of zombies precisely because it IS magic.

You're forgetting that there is pseudoscience in the beginning of the original Dawn of the Dead. Remember the media reports about the strange radiation from the Venus space probe? It's basically an aside, but a pointed one.

Not to mention that by Day of the Dead, you have remnant military scientists attempting to reprogram captured zombie test subjects.

 

[Mallus]

But seriously, the rage virus is absurd.

Of course.

The question is; "Why is it any more absurd than the film's premise?". You know, the whole whole zombie-horde Apocalypse thing...

 

[Rykion]

I was tempted to see this movie right up until the final two weeks when the studio started marketing this as a zombie movie again. I know its an old argument, but it urks me as a horror movie fan using a mutant movie as a zombie movie. FAst or slow these things are still alive.

The word zombie was a misnomer for Romero's movie creatures as well. To be a proper zombie someone would have to have stolen their souls, and the same person or another would control them. They were actually called ghouls in Night of the Living Dead.

The infected in 28 Days/Weeks Later seemingly die, act soulless, and try to eat people like movie "zombies." The only big difference is that they are alive. Mutant isn't a good term for them, unless you consider people infected with a disease mutants.

 

[DonTadow]

The word zombie was a misnomer for Romero's movie creatures as well. To be a proper zombie someone would have to have stolen their souls, and the same person or another would control them. They were actually called ghouls in Night of the Living Dead.

The infected in 28 Days/Weeks Later seemingly die, act soulless, and try to eat people like movie "zombies." The only big difference is that they are alive. Mutant isn't a good term for them, unless you consider people infected with a disease mutants.

Romero and other classic horror directors have defined the world zombie or zombie movie as a creature that was or is dead coming back form the dead to eat flesh. This is the movie defintion of the word and not the actual definition, though depending on what cult or religion you talk to you will get different variations (including our ghoul analogy).

Regardless, the key to zombie in any definition is that at some point it is reanimated dead, not alive, and the creatures in 28 days/weeks later are clearly alive and are referenced as so.

 

[jonathan swift]

Romero and other classic horror directors have defined the world zombie or zombie movie as a creature that was or is dead coming back form the dead to eat flesh. This is the movie defintion of the word and not the actual definition, though depending on what cult or religion you talk to you will get different variations (including our ghoul analogy).

Regardless, the key to zombie in any definition is that at some point it is reanimated dead, not alive, and the creatures in 28 days/weeks later are clearly alive and are referenced as so.

Yes, but 28 Days/Weeks Later contains many of the TROPES of a zombie film. It's like yelling at someone calling Star Wars a fantasy film and saying they are wrong just because it is set in space. The 28 -blank- Later movies aren't technically zombie films, but to the layperson that is the genre they fit.

And I wish they'd go back to calling movie zombies what they actually are, wampyrs.