D&D 3E/3.5 [3.5] Another Druid/Wildshape/Casting Question

[fett527]

There have been many varying definitions of munchkining. This particular method is what I would call textbook, IMO.

 

[Treebore]

Once he turned into a magical beast I would make him be stuck as such. So no multiple awakenings possible. In fact, he has to use wildshape to be anything else. What? Humanoid isn't a druidic form?

 

[Hypersmurf]

Once he turned into a magical beast I would make him be stuck as such.

But if a Magical Beast took druid levels, then when he Wildshapes, his type would change to Animal.

How is this any different?

Further, by ending the Wildshape, a druid returns to his natural form. If you ruled that he was now a Magical Beast (elf) instead of a Humanoid (elf), I'd have no problem with that... but it doesn't change the fact that ending the Wildshape makes him an elf again.

Nor just it change the fact that when he Wildshapes into an animal again, his type changes to Animal.

-Hyp.

 

[Wrathamon]

and ANIMAL GROWTH isnt as effective as you might think.. it only works on Small/Medium animals (if you are a medium druid)

Size increasing effects dont stack and wildshape is a size increasing effect if you change into something larger than you.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

But if a Magical Beast took druid levels, then when he Wildshapes, his type would change to Animal.

How is this any different?

Further, by ending the Wildshape, a druid returns to his natural form. If you ruled that he was now a Magical Beast (elf) instead of a Humanoid (elf), I'd have no problem with that... but it doesn't change the fact that ending the Wildshape makes him an elf again.

Nor just it change the fact that when he Wildshapes into an animal again, his type changes to Animal.

-Hyp.

You could rule that after his awakening, the awakened animal is his true form.

But anyway, by the rules, this is probably an airtight method that works, but should be considered as against the spirit of the rules, and loophole of the a bad sort (not really worst sort, we've seen the bucked-of-snails, the bought-and-killed-horse-xp-machine and other things like that) that will earn you a fitting demise by the sadistic DM of your choice.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Size increasing effects dont stack and wildshape is a size increasing effect if you change into something larger than you.

That's debated

If you cast Enlarge Person, your form increases in size.

If you Wildshape into a bear, your form doesn't change size at all. You assume an entirely different form. You're exactly the normal size for a bear... not the size of a bear under the influence of size-increasing magic.

-Hyp.