[3.5] Any word on revisions to Identify or Analyze Dweomer?

[Tom Cashel]

So, Harm and Hold Person have been given the FLUBBER treatment...what about Identify and Analyze Dweomer? Is there any plan to make these spells more usable in 3.5?

It could be that these spells are meant to be the check and the balance to all the magic items PCs get. But why bother giving them out if identifying their function is well-nigh impossible in the midst of a long journey?

Does anyone have any cool house rules for these spells?
(Mods: I posted this question to the House Rules forum, and haven't gotten any responses).

Any news, rumors, house-rule suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Fondly,
Thomas Cashel Fitzmaurice O'Boyle O'Flynn

 

[schporto]

In our campaign we had no bards and a sorcerer. And besides I couldn't believe a 5th level character wouldn't recognize a +1 longsword. So made up some silly formula and a couple knowledge areas. Worked out something like:
Char level + knowledege appropriate area + int level + bard level (yes add those twice) * 200 = gp of items you can id
So a 3rd level fighter with 12 int and two points in knowledge arms & armor can id any arms or armor item that costs less then 1800 gp. Magic is fairly common in our game so I couldn't believe that pcs wouldn't know some items. Reworking it I think it gets a little unbalanced and that 200 should be lowered. Maybe to 150? Shrug. Still working it all out.
-cpd

 

[Ashardalon]

According to ShadowStar (about in the middle):

Analyze Dweomer is a L6 Bard/Sor/Wiz spell. It take 1 standard action to cast and lasts 1 round/level. It tells you pretty much everything mechanical about the item and it only gets a save if it's bearer wills it. The focus is a 1,500 GP ruby or sapphire in a golden loop.

Identiy if a L1 Bard/Sor/Wiz L2 Magic spell. 1 Hour to cast, effects 1 object, and once again tells you everything (charges, powers, etc). It's material component is a 100 GP crushed pearl, stirred into wine with an owl feather.

 

[Chronosome]

Shweet.

(My original "house rule" was the party having a loremaster friend. )