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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4703916" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>I tend to share this opinion, with ... not really a reservation, but: It seems that the "overdesigned" monsters where a general problem in 3E. It didn't matter whether it was Paizo, another 3PP or WotC, you'd always find monsters that were just way stronger than their CR implied. </p><p></p><p>We used to say that the actual CR of a monster is its CR + Monster Manual Number. And for "custom" monsters in an adventure, I suppose the actual CR was something like CR + 1d8-3. </p><p></p><p>Not always was it just because of "overenthusiastic" design. I remember a monster that got the Half-Fiend template. It had tons of HD, and unfortunately, that template gave the monster a spell (Blasphemy or something like that) with a caster level equal to its HD. But it's CR was _way_ lower than its CR, and the spell basically could kill an entire party unless it was unusually widely spread out. </p><p>The tools given by the game weren't all that great here _and_ the designers didn't double-check the stats either. (Or maybe they did, and just wanted to include a "Rat Bastard" moment. In that case, well done, you made it. But if you don't promise to never do this again, I don't guarantee buying any more adventures from you, anyway.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4703916, member: 710"] I tend to share this opinion, with ... not really a reservation, but: It seems that the "overdesigned" monsters where a general problem in 3E. It didn't matter whether it was Paizo, another 3PP or WotC, you'd always find monsters that were just way stronger than their CR implied. We used to say that the actual CR of a monster is its CR + Monster Manual Number. And for "custom" monsters in an adventure, I suppose the actual CR was something like CR + 1d8-3. Not always was it just because of "overenthusiastic" design. I remember a monster that got the Half-Fiend template. It had tons of HD, and unfortunately, that template gave the monster a spell (Blasphemy or something like that) with a caster level equal to its HD. But it's CR was _way_ lower than its CR, and the spell basically could kill an entire party unless it was unusually widely spread out. The tools given by the game weren't all that great here _and_ the designers didn't double-check the stats either. (Or maybe they did, and just wanted to include a "Rat Bastard" moment. In that case, well done, you made it. But if you don't promise to never do this again, I don't guarantee buying any more adventures from you, anyway.) [/QUOTE]
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