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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Erik Mona" data-source="post: 4708384" data-attributes="member: 2174">Thanks for the thoughtful reply, TCO. I have a better understanding of where you're coming from, and it was nice to read a post that didn't seem to hold Pathfinder or its fans in a highly negative regard. I appreciate that. I hope that even in the height of edition wars we can realize that we all come to EN World because we love gaming, and we all have a LOT more in common than all of us might think.I think I drew a stronger line in the sand on certain late-era splat books in my own campaigning than you may have. For example, whereas you say you would cause World War III at your table if you didn't allow the Spell Compendium, in my opinion that book had some of the lowest quality control of anything rules-based that I ever saw come out of Wizards of the Coast, and when one of my players (usually Bulmahn) wanted to use a spell from it, I immediately grew suspicious that the spell was broken and would lower everyone at the table's enjoyment of the game. Jason was kind enough to prove me right on several occasions, so I took a "you must get each individual item from this book approved" approach to that one, which mitigated its otherwise ruinous effect on my campaign. Likewise the magic item book, which was more just lame and uninspired than unbalanced.Jason and I both come out of the RPGA tradition, so I can assure you that we both have a great deal of experience with players who try to squeeze every iota of juice out of a system's corner cases, exceptions, and badly edited rules. A LOT of the stuff that drove you batty has been addressed in one form or another in the rules. Again, I'm uncertain whether the way we addressed them will appeal to you personally, but then you seem pretty happy playing fourth edition, so it seems like you're in good shape one way or the other.I hope you'll give it a look when the final comes out. Even if you ultimately decide to stick with 4.0 (which I assume you will), you might enjoy seeing how (or if) we addressed some of the issues that ground your campaigns to a halt.--Erik</blockquote>

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