D&D 3E/3.5 [3.5] Monster Advancement Example

[Kirowan]

I think I found a number of mistakes in the monster advancement example on page 292 of the 3.5 MM. Could you guys please check it out before I send it in as errata?

1. The otyugh goes from 6 HD to 15 HD. At 6 HD, he has a +4 to hit with his 2 tentacles and a a -2 to hit with his bite when making a full attack. He doesn't have the multiattack feat. Shouldn't he should have a -1 to hit with his bite, not a -2?

2. When the otyugh goes to 15 HD however, he takes the multiattack feat. His 2 tentacles are at +14 and his bite at +11 when making a full attack. Shouldn't it be +12 for the bite since the multiattack feat penalty is -2 for secondary attacks?

3. Additionally, under the 6 HD otyugh listing for full attack, bite -2 is listed twice as a typo.

4. The 15 HD version of the otyugh has it's abilities reconfigured to account for the size change, but not to account for the fact that he would have gained 2 extra ability points for being 15 HD. Of course, that could alter the skills and saves.

What do you think guys?

Thanks,

Nick

 

[Staffan]

I think I found a number of mistakes in the monster advancement example on page 292 of the 3.5 MM. Could you guys please check it out before I send it in as errata?

1. The otyugh goes from 6 HD to 15 HD. At 6 HD, he has a +4 to hit with his 2 tentacles and a a -2 to hit with his bite when making a full attack. He doesn't have the multiattack feat. Shouldn't he should have a -1 to hit with his bite, not a -2?

2. When the otyugh goes to 15 HD however, he takes the multiattack feat. His 2 tentacles are at +14 and his bite at +11 when making a full attack. Shouldn't it be +12 for the bite since the multiattack feat penalty is -2 for secondary attacks?

You're forgetting that the otyugh has the Weapon Focus (tentacles) feat, which accounts for the 1-point discrepancy between tentacles and bite.

 

[Kirowan]

Ooh, you're right. What about #4 though?

Nick

 

[Christian]

It probably put the extra ability points into Charisma.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

The advanced displacer beast didn't get any extra ability points, either, and some classed creatures weren't "CRed" properly. The mummy lord was, the aboleth mage was not.

I think, when advancing a creature, you should boost the CR by 1 or 2 more points ... and increase the armor. I used one of those 24 HD gorgons mentioned in the Planar section of the DMG ... Power Attack = dead advanced creature, in my limited experience.