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<blockquote data-quote="Snipehunt" data-source="post: 1196701" data-attributes="member: 13142">If you allow the infinite karma beads ploy, another fun spell to cast (besides blasphemy&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> ) is slay living.&nbsp; If the target fails the save, they're dead.&nbsp; Fine.If the target makes the save, it does 3d6+1/caster level.&nbsp; No cap on caster level damage.&nbsp; It's just like the old fireball - no limits here.&nbsp; You could empower it, I guess, and get infinity +27 max, instead of infinity +18 max.&nbsp; With only 83, will, limited to 332+18.&nbsp; Seems a little tawdry next to Frank's charging wizard, though.Add a rod of quicken, get up to 664+36.&nbsp; That's not bad against somebody who makes two saves.&nbsp; It's no 15 balors blowing themselves up, either, though.Or make infinite walls of iron, and fabricate infinite amounts of it into something else.&nbsp; You could polymorph any object an infinite amount of the iron into whatever else you need to make something.&nbsp; Just don't make jewelry or anything.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Snipehunt, post: 1196701, member: 13142"] If you allow the infinite karma beads ploy, another fun spell to cast (besides blasphemy :rolleyes: ) is slay living. If the target fails the save, they're dead. Fine. If the target makes the save, it does 3d6+1/caster level. No cap on caster level damage. It's just like the old fireball - no limits here. You could empower it, I guess, and get infinity +27 max, instead of infinity +18 max. With only 83, will, limited to 332+18. Seems a little tawdry next to Frank's charging wizard, though. Add a rod of quicken, get up to 664+36. That's not bad against somebody who [b]makes[/b] two saves. It's no 15 balors blowing themselves up, either, though. Or make infinite walls of iron, and fabricate infinite amounts of it into something else. You could polymorph any object an infinite amount of the iron into whatever else you need to make something. Just don't make jewelry or anything. [/QUOTE]

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