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[3.5] Paladin's Mount w/Leadership: Is this one legal?
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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 1035104" data-attributes="member: 111"><p>Spatzimaus:</p><p></p><p>Thanks for your answer.</p><p></p><p>I understand your feeling about the unusual mounts being a bit out of whack. I think the reason they exist is because of the lack of survivability of the basic mount. At higher levels, the mount can become more of a liability than an asset - though less so in [3.5].</p><p></p><p>Back directly on-topic:</p><p></p><p>Your point about the intelligence is a good one. The mount in this case cannot have intelligence above two until after being a paladin's mount, but, given the way mounts work now, I figured that the mount "template" and the half-celestial template could potentially happen at the same time, with the requirement for the leadership feat being the balancing factor.</p><p></p><p>Of course, if the original dog was built using a system where you get to create it with a point value (or random method) with racial stat modifiers, then above +2 is possible. In this case, I did not do that, but used the stats right out of the MM.</p><p></p><p>As far as the half-celestial template being more powerful that celestial - well, that's true. In comparing all the creature listed in the DMG, though, it seemed like it was a bit more powerful than most of those listed as 1-level delayed, but less powerful than those listed as 2-levels delayed.</p><p></p><p>I thought perhaps the leadership feat would justify the "rounding down" to 1-level delayed.</p><p></p><p>Does this seem reasonable?</p><p></p><p>BTW - One of the things that confuses me a bit is how the leadership feat and the delaying of mounts' powers work together. I suppose I should review the discussion of dragons as mounts in DotF fo more information on that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 1035104, member: 111"] Spatzimaus: Thanks for your answer. I understand your feeling about the unusual mounts being a bit out of whack. I think the reason they exist is because of the lack of survivability of the basic mount. At higher levels, the mount can become more of a liability than an asset - though less so in [3.5]. Back directly on-topic: Your point about the intelligence is a good one. The mount in this case cannot have intelligence above two until after being a paladin's mount, but, given the way mounts work now, I figured that the mount "template" and the half-celestial template could potentially happen at the same time, with the requirement for the leadership feat being the balancing factor. Of course, if the original dog was built using a system where you get to create it with a point value (or random method) with racial stat modifiers, then above +2 is possible. In this case, I did not do that, but used the stats right out of the MM. As far as the half-celestial template being more powerful that celestial - well, that's true. In comparing all the creature listed in the DMG, though, it seemed like it was a bit more powerful than most of those listed as 1-level delayed, but less powerful than those listed as 2-levels delayed. I thought perhaps the leadership feat would justify the "rounding down" to 1-level delayed. Does this seem reasonable? BTW - One of the things that confuses me a bit is how the leadership feat and the delaying of mounts' powers work together. I suppose I should review the discussion of dragons as mounts in DotF fo more information on that. [/QUOTE]
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