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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 987584" data-attributes="member: 3929">BVB:drnuncheon asked the question, I merely quoted it. It's his citation. The perform skill is mentioned in a blurb within the Bard Class section, and in the Skill chapter. Compared to Combat, which has a chapter. Relatively speaking, performance is a miniscule part of the game. But perhaps I am talking to a all-roleplay-all-the-time player? How much time do you spend describing bardic (or monk) performances compared to time spent in combat?If he assumed anything, it's that combat is an abstraction. [Weapon choices being part of that.] I have a hard time considering this an assumption, as I think it's pretty self evident. Combat is abstract; it does not model reality exactly. (I hear that GURPS has a nice precice system for realistic combat.)-------Since this is the second page of the thread, I figured I'd put up the categories again:Perform:ActComedyDanceKeyboard instrumentsOratoryPercussion InstrumentsString InstrumentsWind InstrumentsSingLet's say you had 10 ranks in Sing and 0 ranks in Comedy. And you wanted to sing a funny song. Would you roll Perform (Sing) because that's what you're good at? Or Perform (Comedy) because your inept comic timing would interfere with your song? A better question: why should this question even be asked? As a lot of people have already said, there is little similarity between these 9 categories, so they should be seperate. What is that elusive similarity? Stage Presence perhaps? Actors need it. (Al Pacino) Comedians need it.(Seinfeld) The great instrumentalists need it (Liberace, Yo-yo Ma, Louis Armstrong...) Public Speakers need it (Clinton and Bush). Dancers need it (Fred Asaire and Giner Rodgers). Singers need it (Barry White, R.I.P.).If Stage Presence is the ubiquitous quality of great performers, why can the Perform skill not measure that, and the method of performance be damned? The answer is to find a mechanic to limit the number of performance types without limiting the presence of the bard; 3e did that, albeit rather ham-fistedly.One last thing. Monks still get Perform right? Where do you stick their Kata?</blockquote>

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