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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 971540" data-attributes="member: 3146">Well there are a number of angles on this question and it is heavily dependent upon the character and weapons in question. However, since I did some calculations on the 3.5e Titan/DR thread in the main forum that included crits, I'll share my conclusions:1. DR numbers are going down in 3.5 but the likelihood of encountering inpenetrable DR is going up to near certainty at high levels.2. A lot of creatures with inpenetrable DR are also immune to crits. Constructs are immune to crits. Undead are immune to crits. Outsiders and Dragons are the other significant DR possessing high CR monsters (although I didn't see DR on the Red Dragon statblock in the revision spotlight). And some outsiders can wear fortification armor (the Titan for instance).3. For low threat range, high multiplier weapons like greataxes and scythes, crits are still devastating.4. One handed, high threat range, low multiplier weapons like scimitars and kukris don't get really impressive results. For instance, the dual shortsword fighter I statted out benefitted from crits--they were the only thing that enabled his off hand to do more than 1d6-2 damage against the Titan. However, he didn't gain enough benefit from crits to be effective against the Titan.5. Adding in crits to the fighter v. Titan calculations didn't result in a dramatic shift in the fighters' favor. Even the greataxe fighter would need an average eight full attacks (or so) to kill the Titan--after crits were figured in.So crits are significant in DR cases but they don't make an overwhelming difference. Where crits might make a big difference is in a more complex analysis that included cleave. I suspect that the fighter 6/Barbarian 2 wielding the keen falchion with improved crit will be more effective against a large group of trolls (or a small group of giants) than the greatsword fighter with a bigger enhancement bonus on the greatsword. However, I don't think that such inclusion would substantially change analysis of the high crit/high damage weapons that we've already performed.</blockquote>

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