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<blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 972389" data-attributes="member: 7211"><p>I always thought the difference in damages were very minor (to the decimal place for some).</p><p></p><p>As far as the actual point of the thread, Andy Collins has already stated that the Weapon Master's Improved Crit functions normally, this is because it requires many prc levels, so abuse is more limited.</p><p></p><p>As I said on the thread about this in the general forums, I think d&d would be better served if all threat modifier bonuses were quantified, just like they are for weapon bonuses.</p><p></p><p>So keen would be a keen bonus that would not stack with other keen bonuses like Keen Edge, Scabbard of Keen-ness, or a low level prc ability (I think the deepwood sniper has keen arrows at level 1, but don't quote me).</p><p></p><p>Then there would be a critical bonus that would not stack with other critical bonuses so Improved Critical, any effect that specifically mentions the threat range or has the word 'critical' in it would all be considered critical bonuses.</p><p></p><p>Special prcs that you want to stack with keen and critical bonuses like the Weapon Master would have an enhancement bonus to threat range. Enhancement bonuses would be very rare and generally very high level. Also because they are built into prcs, they are not an issue for people that don't want threat range abuse, simply ban or alter the offending prc.</p><p></p><p>Keen and critical would stack, multiple keen and multiple critical would not. I think the absolute lowest threat range for regular play (levels 1-20, not ultra high magic) should be 12-20. In certain campaigns, allowing it to go down to 9-20 hasn't broken anything in the past, and shouldn't in the future. Especially now that Vorpal only works on a 20 (wonder if it saw a decrease in price?).</p><p></p><p>Technik</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Technik4, post: 972389, member: 7211"] I always thought the difference in damages were very minor (to the decimal place for some). As far as the actual point of the thread, Andy Collins has already stated that the Weapon Master's Improved Crit functions normally, this is because it requires many prc levels, so abuse is more limited. As I said on the thread about this in the general forums, I think d&d would be better served if all threat modifier bonuses were quantified, just like they are for weapon bonuses. So keen would be a keen bonus that would not stack with other keen bonuses like Keen Edge, Scabbard of Keen-ness, or a low level prc ability (I think the deepwood sniper has keen arrows at level 1, but don't quote me). Then there would be a critical bonus that would not stack with other critical bonuses so Improved Critical, any effect that specifically mentions the threat range or has the word 'critical' in it would all be considered critical bonuses. Special prcs that you want to stack with keen and critical bonuses like the Weapon Master would have an enhancement bonus to threat range. Enhancement bonuses would be very rare and generally very high level. Also because they are built into prcs, they are not an issue for people that don't want threat range abuse, simply ban or alter the offending prc. Keen and critical would stack, multiple keen and multiple critical would not. I think the absolute lowest threat range for regular play (levels 1-20, not ultra high magic) should be 12-20. In certain campaigns, allowing it to go down to 9-20 hasn't broken anything in the past, and shouldn't in the future. Especially now that Vorpal only works on a 20 (wonder if it saw a decrease in price?). Technik [/QUOTE]
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