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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5466797" data-attributes="member: 35909">Armor has no bearing on Finesse, etc...Martial Rogue gets Fighter feat progression, so levels 1, 2, 4, etc...  Not levels 1, 3, 5, etc... like sneak attack, I thought that for a long time erroneously.  I do love Martial Rogue, more so than regular rogue, but for a throwing build you're better off with sneak attack.  Without it, you have no real major damage source to make the throwing worthwhile.  When I use martial rogue, it's for a melee build looking to pick up combat maneuver and tactical feats to have cool tricks and battlefield control options.Now, the reason I say to do Swordsage at levels 9-10 is to get the Assassin's Stance, for a constant +2d6 sneak attack, a very nice boon for just 1-2 levels of a class, not to mention the maneuvers (some of which greatly aid in getting SA, like Cloak of Deception), free weapon focus (see if you can retrain the one you had already to enter Master Thrower), and so on.So...you could theoretically do that and then get Craven later on for 2d6 + HD sneak attack damage and do martial rogue instead.  But I think that'd be too little SA damage to work around, and you'd be really crowding your high level feats (another benefit of getting assassin's stance, or any shadow hand stance for that matter, is the Shadow Blade feat to apply dex to damage with daggers and other shadow hand discipline weapons; and you may very well want Adaptive Style to use your few maneuvers more frequently in long fights).</blockquote>

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