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(3rd Party Book Release) Paranormal Power: A Psionics Option for 5e and A5e, written by Steampunkette!
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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8875690" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>As far as the ethics of AI Art, which is something worth discussing on its own:</p><p></p><p>1) There is no ethical dataset. Midjourney's CEO explained that every Image AI uses the same dataset of scraped images and that there's no way to intentionally exclude copyright imagery because no art has a copyright metadata component they can use to screen art out of the algorithm. Which is a good reminder for everyone that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism.</p><p></p><p>The only positive note is that while Midjourney has access to 250TB of art, it can only utilize 2TB at a time. Meaning it's specifically learning broad impressions from large samples of art and going from there. Loading up the most relevant portion, grabbing a rough idea of what fits for composition and subjects, and then generates within that space.</p><p></p><p>2) There probably won't be a huge governmental pushback against AI Art, even if Disney, as an example, -does- press the matter from people using scrapes of their princess gallery or the mouse himself to create new potentially copyright infringing material. Because while it could be argued to harm their business interests in that specific manner, it'll also provide MASSIVE cost benefits to other corporations across the planet... including several owned by Disney itself.</p><p></p><p>AI Art isn't the "Future" of art all by its lonesome. But it's probably not going anywhere due to the quality, and quantity, it can put out for various purposes. We may see the role of Concept Artist evaporate within the next 20 years, replaced by an AI License to start images that then get handed off to a much smaller employed art community to flesh out. </p><p></p><p>There is more I could say on the subject, but it would wind up nakedly political pretty quickly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 8875690, member: 6796468"] As far as the ethics of AI Art, which is something worth discussing on its own: 1) There is no ethical dataset. Midjourney's CEO explained that every Image AI uses the same dataset of scraped images and that there's no way to intentionally exclude copyright imagery because no art has a copyright metadata component they can use to screen art out of the algorithm. Which is a good reminder for everyone that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. The only positive note is that while Midjourney has access to 250TB of art, it can only utilize 2TB at a time. Meaning it's specifically learning broad impressions from large samples of art and going from there. Loading up the most relevant portion, grabbing a rough idea of what fits for composition and subjects, and then generates within that space. 2) There probably won't be a huge governmental pushback against AI Art, even if Disney, as an example, -does- press the matter from people using scrapes of their princess gallery or the mouse himself to create new potentially copyright infringing material. Because while it could be argued to harm their business interests in that specific manner, it'll also provide MASSIVE cost benefits to other corporations across the planet... including several owned by Disney itself. AI Art isn't the "Future" of art all by its lonesome. But it's probably not going anywhere due to the quality, and quantity, it can put out for various purposes. We may see the role of Concept Artist evaporate within the next 20 years, replaced by an AI License to start images that then get handed off to a much smaller employed art community to flesh out. There is more I could say on the subject, but it would wind up nakedly political pretty quickly. [/QUOTE]
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