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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 7493237" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>I doubt it. TSR was at 100 million in 1992 and that was WELL after the peak of the Fad of AD&D. Tell me when the RPG market (much less the D&D market) gets to 100 million at the minimum...then we'll talk. </p><p></p><p>It was around 91 million in 1991. </p><p></p><p>It was still available in department stores at that time. I have seen D&D in Bookstores, and occasionally other places, but not a regular at department stores, or even Walmart National retail itself (though other WotC things are sellers there on national markets).</p><p></p><p>People want SOOOOO bad for the glory days to be exceeded...that they'll hope for anything. Wonder why.</p><p></p><p>(1990 dollars today would be close to 200 million if we accord for inflation).</p><p></p><p>Of course, that was RIGHT before the crash (and a massive and disastrous crash it was, imagine going from near 100 million a year to -4 or -5 million...that lets the winds out of the sails REAL QUICK).</p><p></p><p>I think people should be happy that 5e is doing the best D&D has ever done for the past 20 YEARS. We don't have to try to compare ourselves to a fad that was probably as big as any fad has ever been from 35 years ago...when we have enough to be proud and happy about right now just in comparison to the LAST two DECADES!!!</p><p></p><p>It's like trying to say...hey...comic books are doing better now than ever before (hint, they aren't, they aren't even close to the peak numbers they used to sell), when in truth it's a totally different thing and market. The MOVIES and hence the companies are making MORE than ever before, even if the fad of buying comic books has decreased greatly.</p><p></p><p>Same with 5e. Why compare something from 30 years ago when the success compared to 3e and 4e (the new wave of RPGs at the turn of the millennium) is more than enough to probably satisfy the need to show success. Heck, most of the RPG gamers today probably don't actually really recall (at oldest, most were in their teens) the AD&D years or even things before that. My generation which was alive and kicking and running the hobby back then have mostly died out or are in nursing homes these days. Why try to beat us, when most of you can't even recall it.</p><p></p><p>Instead, be impressed that you've beat yourselves and your own sales records with the New Era of RPGs that started with 3e (and that was 18 years ago now...that's actually quite a while).</p><p></p><p>People have SHORT memories.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 7493237, member: 4348"] I doubt it. TSR was at 100 million in 1992 and that was WELL after the peak of the Fad of AD&D. Tell me when the RPG market (much less the D&D market) gets to 100 million at the minimum...then we'll talk. It was around 91 million in 1991. It was still available in department stores at that time. I have seen D&D in Bookstores, and occasionally other places, but not a regular at department stores, or even Walmart National retail itself (though other WotC things are sellers there on national markets). People want SOOOOO bad for the glory days to be exceeded...that they'll hope for anything. Wonder why. (1990 dollars today would be close to 200 million if we accord for inflation). Of course, that was RIGHT before the crash (and a massive and disastrous crash it was, imagine going from near 100 million a year to -4 or -5 million...that lets the winds out of the sails REAL QUICK). I think people should be happy that 5e is doing the best D&D has ever done for the past 20 YEARS. We don't have to try to compare ourselves to a fad that was probably as big as any fad has ever been from 35 years ago...when we have enough to be proud and happy about right now just in comparison to the LAST two DECADES!!! It's like trying to say...hey...comic books are doing better now than ever before (hint, they aren't, they aren't even close to the peak numbers they used to sell), when in truth it's a totally different thing and market. The MOVIES and hence the companies are making MORE than ever before, even if the fad of buying comic books has decreased greatly. Same with 5e. Why compare something from 30 years ago when the success compared to 3e and 4e (the new wave of RPGs at the turn of the millennium) is more than enough to probably satisfy the need to show success. Heck, most of the RPG gamers today probably don't actually really recall (at oldest, most were in their teens) the AD&D years or even things before that. My generation which was alive and kicking and running the hobby back then have mostly died out or are in nursing homes these days. Why try to beat us, when most of you can't even recall it. Instead, be impressed that you've beat yourselves and your own sales records with the New Era of RPGs that started with 3e (and that was 18 years ago now...that's actually quite a while). People have SHORT memories. [/QUOTE]
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