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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 7493259" data-attributes="member: 4348">This is true.&nbsp; Something else to take into consideration with the gross sales.&nbsp; Dragon magazine was regularly selling over 100 K during the fad years.&nbsp; That brought in a couple 100K a month at least.&nbsp; Spread over a few months that was quite a bit.That was probably the most successful D&amp;D magazine ever.&nbsp; It was still having print runs in excess of 100K in the early 90s (printed, not necessarily sold).The 2e PHB had around 100K print runs if I remember the information right, and recently brought up that there were over 10 print runs (for over a million printed...not necessarily sold though).3e supposedly sold at least a million hardcopies in the first year (for over 20 million in sales, they printed them cheap so they could sell them for less money at $20 a pop rather than the $25-30 if they hadn't done it that way) and I think it fell to around 800 K hardback sales the next year for the core rulebooks?&nbsp; (so around 16 million for core rules...that doesn't include the other books and modules and accessories and stuff).For comparison, I think the subscriptions for Dragonmag was around 30K during this time period??&nbsp; (people from Paizo may know the better numbers).It would be interesting for a public release of the actual hard number sales of 5e year after year for a comparison to these.Even with the sales of 5e, I'm not sure there are enough players to support a magazine these days of that scale.&nbsp; There are RPG magz out (both online and hardcopy) but I don't think any of them come close to the magazine sales back then.It would be great if WotC released HARD numbers somewhere for comparison of sales numbers (or at least print runs).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 7493259, member: 4348"] This is true. Something else to take into consideration with the gross sales. Dragon magazine was regularly selling over 100 K during the fad years. That brought in a couple 100K a month at least. Spread over a few months that was quite a bit. That was probably the most successful D&D magazine ever. It was still having print runs in excess of 100K in the early 90s (printed, not necessarily sold). The 2e PHB had around 100K print runs if I remember the information right, and recently brought up that there were over 10 print runs (for over a million printed...not necessarily sold though). 3e supposedly sold at least a million hardcopies in the first year (for over 20 million in sales, they printed them cheap so they could sell them for less money at $20 a pop rather than the $25-30 if they hadn't done it that way) and I think it fell to around 800 K hardback sales the next year for the core rulebooks? (so around 16 million for core rules...that doesn't include the other books and modules and accessories and stuff). For comparison, I think the subscriptions for Dragonmag was around 30K during this time period?? (people from Paizo may know the better numbers). It would be interesting for a public release of the actual hard number sales of 5e year after year for a comparison to these. Even with the sales of 5e, I'm not sure there are enough players to support a magazine these days of that scale. There are RPG magz out (both online and hardcopy) but I don't think any of them come close to the magazine sales back then. It would be great if WotC released HARD numbers somewhere for comparison of sales numbers (or at least print runs). [/QUOTE]

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