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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7493286" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>The big problem with this statement (other than the lack of any and all citations) is that you compare TSR with D&D. </p><p>TSR had numerous other games. The Marvel Superheroes RPG, Boot Hill, Gamma World, Dungeon!, Flash Gordon, and more. They had cards. They had dice games. They had two competing versions of D&D. </p><p></p><p></p><p>In 1984, Dragon Magazine sold for $3. </p><p>Of that, $0.60 went to TSR. So, no, they weren't making $100k each month. Plus, that $20,000 is the gross income. You take that and deduct the money paid for the dozen regular features, the half-dozen monthly pieces, plus the salaries of the dozen or so editors, the publisher, the marketing staff, layout, art director, etc.</p><p></p><p>The money it actually <em>made </em>was a lot less. </p><p></p><p></p><p>The magazine business itself is largely dead. </p><p></p><p>What's in a magazine? Previews of upcoming books. That's free on the net. Advice articles on running the game. Free on the net on ever gamer's blog. Forums to discuss the game through letters. Replaced by sites like this. Semi-official content. Replaced by the DMsGuild.</p><p> </p><p>There's almost nothing Dragon has to offer that people will pay for.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Never going to happen. WotC is owned by a publicly traded company. They will <em>never</em> share sales. </p><p></p><p>What we do have is this:</p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/mikemearls/status/764241988128419840?lang=en" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/mikemearls/status/764241988128419840?lang=en</a></p><p></p><p>And that was two years ago. Two years of continued and steady sales. 5e long ago passed 2e and very likely has passed 1e. (But it probably hasn't passed 1e + Basic.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7493286, member: 37579"] The big problem with this statement (other than the lack of any and all citations) is that you compare TSR with D&D. TSR had numerous other games. The Marvel Superheroes RPG, Boot Hill, Gamma World, Dungeon!, Flash Gordon, and more. They had cards. They had dice games. They had two competing versions of D&D. In 1984, Dragon Magazine sold for $3. Of that, $0.60 went to TSR. So, no, they weren't making $100k each month. Plus, that $20,000 is the gross income. You take that and deduct the money paid for the dozen regular features, the half-dozen monthly pieces, plus the salaries of the dozen or so editors, the publisher, the marketing staff, layout, art director, etc. The money it actually [I]made [/I]was a lot less. The magazine business itself is largely dead. What's in a magazine? Previews of upcoming books. That's free on the net. Advice articles on running the game. Free on the net on ever gamer's blog. Forums to discuss the game through letters. Replaced by sites like this. Semi-official content. Replaced by the DMsGuild. There's almost nothing Dragon has to offer that people will pay for. Never going to happen. WotC is owned by a publicly traded company. They will [I]never[/I] share sales. What we do have is this: [url]https://twitter.com/mikemearls/status/764241988128419840?lang=en[/url] And that was two years ago. Two years of continued and steady sales. 5e long ago passed 2e and very likely has passed 1e. (But it probably hasn't passed 1e + Basic.) [/QUOTE]
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