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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 7493367" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Peak golden age D&amp;D adjusted for inflation is around 50% bigger than the estimated 2018 market. Some of those old adventures though were selling 200k+ though so it was not just the red box and PHB doing gang busters (and peak D&amp;D lasted 1 maybe 2 years). We don't know how they made their estimates lol, I would expect WotC to have abetter idea due to more resources and focused research groups vs Gary's opinion. As I said releasing the PHBs sold would be a good clue and even that is not that great due to things like VTTS and D&amp;D Beyond, nor do we know 100% how much of an overlap between VTTS, D&amp;D Beyond, and real books their are. THey might be going with something like 5 players per PHB sold for estimates, I have seen players with 2 or 3 PHB though and most players seem to have them locally here and I doubt NXZ matters in the grand scheme of things (all bought on Amazon or other online dealers as well- no FLGS).&nbsp; &nbsp;Anecdotally what I have noticed is most players now have a PHB, we had 7 people and 6 of them had PHBs, and some of my other players their groups also have one each. In the past usually had 2 maybe 3 for the group. Mates sisters group uses D&amp;D Beyond along with some amount of dead tree format PHB's. A lot more women playing as well although the game is still overwhelmingly pale. The other thing somewhat unique to 5E is how it is doing consistent sales with peaks on Amazons with sales, 3.0 for example apparently had 60% of sales in the 1st month, 1/3rd of 2E was the 1st year. They only have to sell a couple of hundred books a day + early sales spikes to beat peak D&amp;D as even a million+ sales over 10 years breaks down to 300 a day and Amazon probably has 30-50% of total sales so</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 7493367, member: 6716779"] Peak golden age D&D adjusted for inflation is around 50% bigger than the estimated 2018 market. Some of those old adventures though were selling 200k+ though so it was not just the red box and PHB doing gang busters (and peak D&D lasted 1 maybe 2 years). We don't know how they made their estimates lol, I would expect WotC to have abetter idea due to more resources and focused research groups vs Gary's opinion. As I said releasing the PHBs sold would be a good clue and even that is not that great due to things like VTTS and D&D Beyond, nor do we know 100% how much of an overlap between VTTS, D&D Beyond, and real books their are. THey might be going with something like 5 players per PHB sold for estimates, I have seen players with 2 or 3 PHB though and most players seem to have them locally here and I doubt NXZ matters in the grand scheme of things (all bought on Amazon or other online dealers as well- no FLGS). Anecdotally what I have noticed is most players now have a PHB, we had 7 people and 6 of them had PHBs, and some of my other players their groups also have one each. In the past usually had 2 maybe 3 for the group. Mates sisters group uses D&D Beyond along with some amount of dead tree format PHB's. A lot more women playing as well although the game is still overwhelmingly pale. The other thing somewhat unique to 5E is how it is doing consistent sales with peaks on Amazons with sales, 3.0 for example apparently had 60% of sales in the 1st month, 1/3rd of 2E was the 1st year. They only have to sell a couple of hundred books a day + early sales spikes to beat peak D&D as even a million+ sales over 10 years breaks down to 300 a day and Amazon probably has 30-50% of total sales so [/QUOTE]

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