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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7493429" data-attributes="member: 37579">I'd love to see where you're getting 2e revenue numbers. I discussed this earlier in another post in this thread:<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?651747-4-years-of-5E-on-Amazon-same-old-same-old/page6&amp;p=7472666#post7472666" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?651747-4-years-of-5E-on-Amazon-same-old-same-old/page6&amp;p=7472666#post7472666</a>Right now, comparing 1982 TSR sales to 2017 D&amp;D sales, TSR was at $57 million while according to ICv2's numbers, D&amp;D is probably around $40 million. But, of course, that's all of TSR. Which wasn't just Boot Hill but that game and Gangbusters and Star Frontiers and Top Secret. Plus the first Endless Quest books. And their various board games. However, as someone quickly pointed out after I made my post... the $40 million D&amp;D likely made in 2017 is for retail stores and doesn't include Amazon. Nor would it include sales from D&amp;D Beyond, Roll20, Fantasy Grounds, or the DMsGuild. So if Amazon accounts for an additional 35% sales, it matches ' 82 TSR. And given this thread is about the continued and ever increasing sales of D&amp;D on Amazon, it's probably pretty likely that Amazon might be moving that many books and that D&amp;D 5e has crushed TSR as a whole.And that's still NOT including all the side D&amp;D products like board games or collectable mini games (not included in RPGs) or Neverwinter and related video games. All of which would funnel money into WotC's pockets.But... even if it hasn't actually passed the TSR of 1982, as I extrapolate in that thread, provided D&amp;D doesn't crash like it did in 1983, 5e will make more money than early 1980s TSR, and that 5e will sell more than 1e and Basic combined. Even if sales plateau, that's not enough for '80s TSR to maintain its lead. It's pretty much inevitable, if it hasn't already happened.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7493429, member: 37579"] I'd love to see where you're getting 2e revenue numbers. I discussed this earlier in another post in this thread: [URL]http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?651747-4-years-of-5E-on-Amazon-same-old-same-old/page6&p=7472666#post7472666[/URL] Right now, comparing 1982 TSR sales to 2017 D&D sales, TSR was at $57 million while according to ICv2's numbers, D&D is probably around $40 million. But, of course, that's [I]all[/I] of TSR. Which wasn't just [I]Boot Hill[/I] but that game [B][I]and[/I] [/B][I]Gangbusters [B]and [/B]Star Frontiers [B]and [/B]Top Secret[/I]. Plus the first[I] Endless Quest[/I] books. And their various board games. However, as someone quickly pointed out after I made my post... the $40 million D&D likely made in 2017 is for retail stores [B][I]and doesn't include Amazon[/I][/B]. Nor would it include sales from D&D Beyond, Roll20, Fantasy Grounds, or the DMsGuild. So if Amazon accounts for an additional 35% sales, it matches ' 82 TSR. And given this thread is about the continued and ever increasing sales of D&D on Amazon, it's probably pretty likely that Amazon might be moving that many books and that D&D 5e has crushed TSR as a whole. And that's still NOT including all the side D&D products like board games or collectable mini games (not included in RPGs) or Neverwinter and related video games. All of which would funnel money into WotC's pockets. But... even if it hasn't actually passed the TSR of 1982, as I extrapolate in that thread, provided D&D doesn't crash like it did in 1983, 5e will make more money than early 1980s TSR, and that 5e will sell more than 1e and Basic combined. Even if sales plateau, that's not enough for '80s TSR to maintain its lead. It's pretty much inevitable, if it hasn't already happened. [/QUOTE]

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