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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lycurgon" data-source="post: 8846832" data-attributes="member: 7025583">That is not even vaguely the same thing. Asking if you can play a subclass and the DM saying yes is very different from trying to use the old subclasses with the new cleric class. Trying to integrate cleric subclass from a previous book into the new Cleric class would take work. The first level features have to be moved to 3rd level. Does the subclass still give you armour and weapon proficiencies when the new cleric subclasses have had that option moved into another class feature? (If you keep the subclass proficiencies then you get the benefit of the Protector level 2 option and get to pick one of the other 2 options at level 2.) At what level do you get the level 2 Subclass feature? The old subclasses have there features at 1st, 2nd, 6th, 8th, and 17th (although 8th has been replaced with a class feature that is pretty much equivalent so can be safely ignored). The new cleric subclasses get their features at 3rd, 6th, 10th and 14th. So how does that fit together now? Is the 17th level power still balanced if you move it to 14th level? Since the new subclasses don't give 1st level spells, should the old subclasses keep them or drop them and just get those from 3rd?To make this work it takes quite a bit of changing things around and deciding how it will work. It is not even vaguely like asking if you can play a Mercy Monk.</blockquote>