4d4 Damage Upgrade?

[Ogrork the Mighty]

If a monster deals 4d4 damage and takes the Improved Natural Attack feat, what does the damage increase to?

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

If a monster deals 4d4 damage and takes the Improved Natural Attack feat, what does the damage increase to?

I'm guessing 4d6, as a Large falchion would do 2d6 instead of the Medium's 2d4.

Brad

 

[Azrael]

Yep, I'd agree, when a d4 increases a size it goes to d6, so 4d4 would change to 4d6

 

[Primitive Screwhead]

IN this you have to extrapolate as the table doesn't cover it:

Old Damage (Each)*    New Damage
           1d2                   1d3
           1d3                   1d4
           1d4                   1d6
           1d6                   1d8
           1d8                   2d6
          1d10                  2d8
           2d6                   3d6
           2d8                   3d8

I see the pattern resulting in a double die type increase and a number of dice decrease.. resulting in 3D8.

 

[Scharlata]

If a monster deals 4d4 damage and takes the Improved Natural Attack feat, what does the damage increase to?

Hi!

Should be:

[B]1d4 --> 1d6 [+2]
2d4 --> 2d6 [+4][/B]
3d4 --> 3d6 [+6]
[COLOR=DarkOrange]4d4 --> 4d6[/COLOR] [+8]

[B]1d8 --> 2d6 [+4]
2d8 --> 3d8 [+8][/B]
3d8 --> 6d6 [+12]
4d8 --> 6d8 [+16]

[B]1d10 --> 2d8 [+6]
2d10 --> 4d8 [+12][/B]
3d10 --> 6d8 [+18]
4d10 --> 8d8 [+24]

[B]1d6 --> 1d8 [+2, should have been +3]
2d6 --> 3d6 [+6][/B]
3d6 --> 3d8 [+6, should have been +9]
4d6 --> 6d6 [+12]

Bold entries are shown on Table 7-4 PHB, p. 114.
Others are extrapolated.

Enjoy!

 

[Knight Otu]

IMPROVED NATURAL ATTACK [GENERAL]
Prerequisite: Natural weapon, base attack bonus +4.
Benefit: Choose one of the creature’s natural attack forms. The damage for this natural weapon increases by one step, as if the creature’s size had increased by one category: 1d2, 1d3, 1d4, 1d6, 1d8, 2d6, 3d6, 4d6, 6d6, 8d6, 12d6.
A weapon or attack that deals 1d10 points of damage increases as follows: 1d10, 2d8, 3d8, 4d8, 6d8, 8d8, 12d8.
Special: A creature can gain this feat multiple times. Each time it applies to a different natural attack.

I'm going to be the odd man out and say it should be 6d4. Starting at 2dX, the pattern goes
NdX, 1.5NdX, 2NdX, repeat with with N=2N. Essentially, double the number of dice each two steps in size up.

 

[Scharlata]

[...]Benefit: Choose one of the creature’s natural attack forms. The damage for this natural weapon increases by one step, as if the creature’s size had increased by one category: 1d2, 1d3, 1d4, 1d6, 1d8, 2d6, 3d6, 4d6, 6d6, 8d6, 12d6.
A weapon or attack that deals 1d10 points of damage increases as follows: 1d10, 2d8, 3d8, 4d8, 6d8, 8d8, 12d8.[...]

Hi!

Really odd, because that increase range is identical to the 3.0 Damage For Larger Weapons rules from the Arms and Equipment Guide, p. 4.

That makes you wonder....

Kind regards