Guns & Gears Remastered Review

The Paizo team sent me a copy of the Pathfinder Guns and Gears Remastered book so I could give my honest review of it. As always, these books don’t disappoint from an artistic or organized standpoint. The team at Pathfinder really do make it easy for you to find the information you are looking for without flipping back and forth through the book a billion times.

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Quick Overview

If you're thinking about adding a bit of steampunk or black powder to your game, this is the book for you. Guns and Gears provides two additional classes to the world of Golarion: the inventor and the gunslinger. In addition to new classes, a plethora of archetypes, backgrounds, vehicles, siege engines, gadgets, and the remastered automaton ancestry are all ready to expand your game with options for battlefields large and small.

Most of the changes from 2nd edition to Remaster are minor. Most of the changes are going to be little tweaks to take out OGL wording and bringing it into ORC wording or to clarify rules questions. There were a couple of bigger tweaks to a few classes and archetypes. This is not a complete list of everything that changed, just some of the ones that stood out to me.

Inventor

The Inventor is the character who is always dreaming up the next unique contraption, always ready with an idea to overcome just about any challenge. They are the ones who send their inventions into combat to really push them to the limit and see what needs improving. Pay no attention to the smoke coming from the invention.

The Inventor’s Overdrive has been given a Failure effect that it previously didn’t have. “Your gizmos whine concerningly and begin to smoke. Your strikes deal 1 additional fire damage.” Innovation armor AC bonuses have gone up by one. Weapon Innovations give you more options, making them more useful by adding additional traits.

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Gunslinger

The gunslinger is always ready to draw a bead on their enemy, striking before they can pose a true threat. Their knowledge of guns and complex weaponry is rivaled by none.

Slinger’s Precision takes the place of Singular Expertise. This has taken away the limits on training non-ranged weapons as well as giving higher damage bonuses with non-repeating ranged weapons. When using a combination weapon, you use your proficiency with firearms and crossbows for attacks made with the melee configuration. Way of the Drifter’s Reloading Strike has added that this reload does not trigger reactions. Munitions Crafter allows you to make bombs and alchemical ammunition every day equal to four plus half your level. There is also a clarification that you cannot use this to make horns or kegs of black powder.

Spellshot

Spellshot is a gunslinger archetype that combines magical power with technology, blending the two together. This allows them to imbue their weapon with energy and conjure bullets from thin air.

Recall Ammunition no longer triggers with only 0 level ammunition, but allows for all ammunition types to be recalled on a missed shot. If the ammunition was a piece of magical or alchemical ammunition that requires actions to activate it, you must re-activate it before firing it again.

Spell-Woven Shot is a new feat that allows you to combine your magic with that of your magical crossbow or firearm. This feat is also useful if you use the Beast Gunner Archetype, allowing you a to load and activate a piece of magical ammunition as a free action once per 10 minutes.

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Bullet Dancer

Monks with guns? Yes please. The bullet dancer combines the fluid motions of the monastic orders with explosive attacks.

You now have access to Qi spells at level 4. Fixed the wording in the Bullet Dancer Dedication to clear up what weapons are included. These include martial firearms and martial combination weapons.

Dongun Dwarf Ancestry Feats

Dungun Hold has been caught between the warring armies of Geb and Nex for over a millennium. When the surface world because unlivable, they retreated below-ground, destroying the entrance along the way. This allowed them to discover a strange black powder that changed the course of their lives.

Explosive Savant now says that you treat bombs and martial weapons as simple weapons and advanced firearms as martial weapons due to spending your lifetime wielding guns and explosives. Having built up a tolerance to your own explosions, Explosive Expert now makes you immune to your own splash damage.

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Mobility Devices

In the theme of invention and innovation, basic assistive devices also have gotten a bit of an upgrade. Magical wheelchairs use technology and magic to create incredible effects for those who use them.

Basic Chair is now called Wheelchair. All of the Activations for magical wheelchairs have names. So if you want to use your Frog Chair's tongue to grab something, you just need to Grrrabbit!

Storm Chair gained a new ability called Ride the Lightning. Once per day, you can release the majority of the stored energy in the chair to cast chain lightning with a DC of 31.

Final Thoughts

Obviously, there are plenty of other cool items, vehicles, and changes from Second Edition to the Remaster, but I can't give everything away. That being said, my character needs a speedster (steam-powered horse) and a clockwork castle to live.

Let’s all be clear: I have a soft spot for inventors and tinkerers in fantasy settings. I think it brings an interesting flavor of innovation in a world where magical innovation is the norm. Plus, who doesn’t want to ride on a mechanical horse?

I love that this book is set up with the division of Guns and Gears. If you only want Gunslinger Backgrounds and Feats, you don’t have to slog through Inventor things. You can just stick to what you are interested in or play with it all.

As always, I love that the design team takes the time to make sure the book is well laid out (and pretty) with ease of the end user in mind.
 

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And yeah, I get that it sucks and I'll make the criticism again that Paizo could be clear on what their remaster strategy is moving forward. Is Secrets of Magic getting a remaster? Dark Archives? Probably when they need a reprint, but they haven't confirmed that I know of. If you're playing the OGL or ORC version of the game, you can't make an informed decision on purchases right now. They could and should do better about this. I just can't be bothered to care enough to get angry about any of it. We live in a digital world and I chose to buy books anyhow because I am old and I like them. That's a me problem.
They have stated this several times and they are... kind of... sticking to it.

They ONLY planned to remaster what has already been remastered:

The core rulebook, the advanced players guide, and bestiary, and the Gamemastery guide. These all got rewritten as new core books. In a sense the last piece of this is shipping right now: NPC Core is about 1/5-1/4 the NPCs that were in Gamemastery Guide. It just also has a massive amount of never before seen new stuff.

Where they are being fuzzy is that all new reprints are getting the remaster label on the cover - but these are just reprints with the near to last page OGL swapped for ORC, and the errata that is mostly already on their website's FAQ. These books - if you owned the PDFs, you get an update.

So technically we're done with remaster. NOTHING else should get a 'real remaster' (soft edition bump). Future books that say 'remaster' should just be reprints with errata and ORC.

It can suck for print only people, but we're like people holding on to LPs in the MP3 era... Our format has no logical purpose, it's all about nostalgia.

Fortunately for me I'm in between. I am still fond of my legacy format, but I actually prefer the digital for day to day use. I only keep the legacy because I'm an old Gen-X who feels weird if I can't see a physical item somewhere.


Again: I don't blame Paizo for this one bit. I blame WotC and their OGL fiasco. By the time they reneged on it from pressure, and ONLY from pressure - Paizo was knee deep into remaster work, and it was just better to keep moving forward just in case the wind changed direction over at WotC. One thing about ORC is that even if the wind changes at Paizo, anything in ORC can't be messed with.

Note that the same person who created d20 and OGL, now works at/with Paizo and made ORC. And he made ORC to fix the flaws time has shown in OGL. They can't Pinkerton you over ORC stuff. ;)

Also... it's been more like 4-6 years. At this point PF2E is just shy of 7 years old - I have the print version of the beta, and it's from 2018. I have the print version of the first printing also - 2019.

So we're looking at around 1.5 to 2x longer than the gap between 3.0 and 3.5. I was there for that gap too - it was very popular at the time because it fixed stuff. But it was a smaller change than Pathfinder just got. In retrospect it looks much more like a cash grab - no major fixes and no legal pressure. But I also have to admit that given WotC today, I have a tendency to just past WotC more harshly.

WotC at the time of 3.0 was the people who now own Paizo - often literally the same people. WotC by 3.5 was possibly early Hasbro.
 
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I've managed to avoid the Apple ecosystem thus far, so I'm hesitant to start at this stage in life. I may look into some Android tablets.
That actually works to your favor in the Pathfinder world. The character maker that almost everyone uses is PC and Android only.

I like Android in concept, but prefer Apple in practice due to one single reason: privacy. Everything else is better in Android - but the cost of 'being the product' rather then 'getting a product' it too great so I suffer through what for me is an otherwise annoying ecosystem.

(I've also worked as a developer on several Google projects, two friends were Apple devs and a third was a high level manager - and even there I prefer Google / Android. I just wish they'd sell me the product rather than sell me to the product...
 

Fortunately for me I'm in between. I am still fond of my legacy format, but I actually prefer the digital for day to day use. I only keep the legacy because I'm an old Gen-X who feels weird if I can't see a physical item somewhere.
When I play in person, I definitely prefer print. You can easily pass a book, send it home with a player, and a lot of these PDFs are just bad to use (granted some of this is because of my computing power, which I need to remedy).
 

They have stated this several times and they are... kind of... sticking to it.

They ONLY planned to remaster what has already been remastered:

The core rulebook, the advanced players guide, and bestiary, and the Gamemastery guide. These all got rewritten as new core books. In a sense the last piece of this is shipping right now: NPC Core is about 1/5-1/4 the NPCs that were in Gamemastery Guide. It just also has a massive amount of never before seen new stuff.

Where they are being fuzzy is that all new reprints are getting the remaster label on the cover - but these are just reprints with the near to last page OGL swapped for ORC, and the errata that is mostly already on their website's FAQ. These books - if you owned the PDFs, you get an update.

So technically we're done with remaster. NOTHING else should get a 'real remaster' (soft edition bump). Future books that say 'remaster' should just be reprints with errata and ORC.

It can suck for print only people, but we're like people holding on to LPs in the MP3 era... Our format has no logical purpose, it's all about nostalgia.

Fortunately for me I'm in between. I am still fond of my legacy format, but I actually prefer the digital for day to day use. I only keep the legacy because I'm an old Gen-X who feels weird if I can't see a physical item somewhere.


Again: I don't blame Paizo for this one bit. I blame WotC and their OGL fiasco. By the time they reneged on it from pressure, and ONLY from pressure - Paizo was knee deep into remaster work, and it was just better to keep moving forward just in case the wind changed direction over at WotC. One thing about ORC is that even if the wind changes at Paizo, anything in ORC can't be messed with.

Note that the same person who created d20 and OGL, now works at/with Paizo and made ORC. And he made ORC to fix the flaws time has shown in OGL. They can't Pinkerton you over ORC stuff. ;)

Also... it's been more like 4-6 years. At this point PF2E is just shy of 7 years old - I have the print version of the beta, and it's from 2018. I have the print version of the first printing also - 2019.

So we're looking at around 1.5 to 2x longer than the gap between 3.0 and 3.5. I was there for that gap too - it was very popular at the time because it fixed stuff. But it was a smaller change than Pathfinder just got. In retrospect it looks much more like a cash grab - no major fixes and no legal pressure. But I also have to admit that given WotC today, I have a tendency to just past WotC more harshly.

WotC at the time of 3.0 was the people who now own Paizo - often literally the same people. WotC by 3.5 was possibly early Hasbro.
So when they announced the Remaster project, Erik Mona said what you started with: only the core books were getting remastered. He said nothing about Treasure Vault or Guns and Gear. Around that time they said Rage of Elements was largely remaster proof despite being an OGL book because it was the first rulebook released after the remaster project was announced so they already had an idea of what was changing. So no, they aren't sticking to what they initially said by trickling out remastered versions of other rulebooks. As has been said upthread, they don't HAVE to remaster the OGL stuff to continue printing it; they are CHOOSING to do so since the core of the game is now under ORC and they want to ensure control of their game moving forward and I get that.

What I don't like is them not CLEARLY saying in a blog post "Hey guys, as each book is due for a reprint we will be giving them the remaster treatment and making some tweaks. We don't really know timeframes on this, but be aware this is the plan." This allows consumers to make informed choices moving forward on if they want to buy the OGL book now or wait for an ORC book at an undetermined time. I'm not interested in how they handle PDFs because people aren't buying PDFs at their FLGS.

Point blank if WotC was doing this, they absolutely would not get a pass. I already own all of the rulebooks in hardcover format, so it doesn't matter to me much what they do or don't announce from my purchasing perspective. New players are jumping on their game and having to be told by fans "don't buy Dark Archives or Secrets of Magic just yet because they will probably get a remaster at some point" and that's pretty crappy for a new fan to have to speculate on instead of hearing it from the publisher. Likewise, if you want to stick with OGL version of the game it would be nice to hear from them you have a limited window to buy books before they are out of print forever.
 

That actually works to your favor in the Pathfinder world. The character maker that almost everyone uses is PC and Android only.

I like Android in concept, but prefer Apple in practice due to one single reason: privacy. Everything else is better in Android - but the cost of 'being the product' rather then 'getting a product' it too great so I suffer through what for me is an otherwise annoying ecosystem.

(I've also worked as a developer on several Google projects, two friends were Apple devs and a third was a high level manager - and even there I prefer Google / Android. I just wish they'd sell me the product rather than sell me to the product...
The Pathbuilder developer has a beta version of the iOS app that will be available for testing soon, so there will finally be a version there.
 


So when they announced the Remaster project, Erik Mona said what you started with: only the core books were getting remastered. He said nothing about Treasure Vault or Guns and Gear.
Those aren't remasters. They're errata. Anyone who owns the old PDFs got them updated free. They're putting remaster sticker on them - which I feel is a bad move. But the contents are errata which is in free PDF updates AND on the website's FAQ.

I actually stated that above.

Several times.

So have other people.

Several times.
 



What I don't like is them not CLEARLY saying in a blog post "Hey guys, as each book is due for a reprint we will be giving them the remaster treatment and making some tweaks.
They have stated, as each book sells out and comes up for a reprint, that it is errata and will get PDF updates and that if you already own it, what's coming out in the reprint is just errata. That's been stated each time this has occurred - which thus far is only twice.

Changes seen for GnG were in the end - just that. The changes of the errata. And I got a PDF update.

I don't expect them replace my print book anymore than I would expect to get a new copy of an LP if the record company put it out again with a new cover or new liner jacket, or with one censoring out some expletives or something.

Where I do agree with critics is sticking the 'remaster' label on it creates confusion where the actual events and updates being made could be a lot less confusing. That's a marketing / communication flaw - not a product or in my opinion, even c-suite flaw.
 

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