Siberys
Adventurer
Well, yeah... I remember that too. However, iIrc, Burlew's elves were more evil-necromantic, and outright villainous.
Still, that's just a facet or two. I want to see these things whole-cloth!
4E 2010 Setting: Place Your Bets
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Well, yeah... I remember that too. However, iIrc, Burlew's elves were more evil-necromantic, and outright villainous.
Still, that's just a facet or two. I want to see these things whole-cloth!
I thought all the D&D movies lost money...
Mortellan
Explorer
Well to be fair, those movies would be like Marvel releasing a movie about some generic hero rather than use one of their dozens of popular titles. Why they are scared to option a real D&D property movie when fantasy movies are at their height amazes me.
btw, back on topic. I will laugh mighty hard if GH is picked.
darjr
I crit!
I'm A Banana
Potassium-Rich
I would like something new, but I don't think that's happening. It's risky. It's not the right time. It's early in 4e's life cycle (save the new stuff for when you want to revitalize sales!). 4e is still kind of struggling to win over fans of earlier editions.
So the best bet is to revive something fondly recalled in a way that does justice to the old material, but captures some of the best features of 4e at their most vital.
Dark Sun would have trouble doing that, for reasons I've elaborated on elsewhere (conflicting philosophies).
Dragonlance wouldn't have as much trouble, but most of the "hints" for DL have been since shown to not be about DL at all, necessarily.
I also think there's a chance for an outside contender in Greyhawk. There hasn't been real bad buzz about going back to a "Gygaxian" Greyhawk, and the world would easily show that you can do "old school" in 4e. Greyhawk also has the advantage of having lain fallow for longer than DL has.
Since I can't bring myself to vote for DS, even with it being a potential contender (because I forsee it being the straw that breaks the camel's back for me with 4e)....
...and since DL has been shown to be in other things...
...I will tentatively place a bet on Greyhawk.
Of course, if we were betting actual money, I would wager on Dark Sun. Not because it's likely, but because then it's win-win for me. If it doesn't happen, I'm out some money, but hey, no Dark Sun yet! If it does happen, well, they might FUBAR it, but at least I'll have your money to console me.
And then, if they don't FUBAR it...DOUBLE SCORE!
But for fun, I'm going with the outside chance. Honestly, there's not much strong evidence for ANY setting at this point, which I'm sure delights the WotC folks to no end to see us grasping at straws.
So the best bet is to revive something fondly recalled in a way that does justice to the old material, but captures some of the best features of 4e at their most vital.
Dark Sun would have trouble doing that, for reasons I've elaborated on elsewhere (conflicting philosophies).
Dragonlance wouldn't have as much trouble, but most of the "hints" for DL have been since shown to not be about DL at all, necessarily.
I also think there's a chance for an outside contender in Greyhawk. There hasn't been real bad buzz about going back to a "Gygaxian" Greyhawk, and the world would easily show that you can do "old school" in 4e. Greyhawk also has the advantage of having lain fallow for longer than DL has.
Since I can't bring myself to vote for DS, even with it being a potential contender (because I forsee it being the straw that breaks the camel's back for me with 4e)....
...and since DL has been shown to be in other things...
...I will tentatively place a bet on Greyhawk.
Of course, if we were betting actual money, I would wager on Dark Sun. Not because it's likely, but because then it's win-win for me. If it doesn't happen, I'm out some money, but hey, no Dark Sun yet! If it does happen, well, they might FUBAR it, but at least I'll have your money to console me.
And then, if they don't FUBAR it...DOUBLE SCORE!
But for fun, I'm going with the outside chance. Honestly, there's not much strong evidence for ANY setting at this point, which I'm sure delights the WotC folks to no end to see us grasping at straws.
kenmarable
Hero
Over the past year, I've been convinced that it's been a lot of different possibilities. So right now, the night before... I have no flipping clue.
Just to put a horse in the race, so to speak, I'm go out on a limb and go with Kara Tur/Oriental Adventures as my official guess.
However, I can easily see it being Greyhawk or Dragonlance or even Dark Sun or Plancescape, so I have no idea. I'm pretty sure that it will be an old setting and the next will be an original just because that feels like better pacing. But who knows.
Now, what I could LOVE is either a full fleshed out Oriental Adventures (Kara Tur or otherwise) or a re-invented Dark Sun. I think an "update" to Dark Sun would be very painful and bad. Trying to incorporate all of the new material into the old canon would just get ugly. Timeline advances and/or "Time of Troubles" style cataclysms just feel forced and were a major bone of contention with FR 4e. But if they just went bold and rebuilt Dark Sun from scratch with the same concepts filtered through 4e, that could seriously rock. Like Battlestar Galatica reboot rock. The setting has been dead for a long time, and they seemed willing to make some bold changes from pre-4e to 4e, so it's possible. I think a retooled Dark Sun that is A) utterly true to the "feel" of the setting, B) not overly concerned with the specifics of canon, and C) very careful about the "everything core is possible" (not necessarily present in canon just possible), it would be an incredible 4e setting.
A Planescape or "Planejammer" reboot would also be cool. Although I love the existing setting (and am finally getting started with a 4e Planescape), I'm not sure a straight conversion from WotC would come out that well. But who knows.
So short answer - I have no clue, but I'll go with OA of some sort. *shrug*
Just to put a horse in the race, so to speak, I'm go out on a limb and go with Kara Tur/Oriental Adventures as my official guess.
However, I can easily see it being Greyhawk or Dragonlance or even Dark Sun or Plancescape, so I have no idea. I'm pretty sure that it will be an old setting and the next will be an original just because that feels like better pacing. But who knows.
Now, what I could LOVE is either a full fleshed out Oriental Adventures (Kara Tur or otherwise) or a re-invented Dark Sun. I think an "update" to Dark Sun would be very painful and bad. Trying to incorporate all of the new material into the old canon would just get ugly. Timeline advances and/or "Time of Troubles" style cataclysms just feel forced and were a major bone of contention with FR 4e. But if they just went bold and rebuilt Dark Sun from scratch with the same concepts filtered through 4e, that could seriously rock. Like Battlestar Galatica reboot rock. The setting has been dead for a long time, and they seemed willing to make some bold changes from pre-4e to 4e, so it's possible. I think a retooled Dark Sun that is A) utterly true to the "feel" of the setting, B) not overly concerned with the specifics of canon, and C) very careful about the "everything core is possible" (not necessarily present in canon just possible), it would be an incredible 4e setting.
A Planescape or "Planejammer" reboot would also be cool. Although I love the existing setting (and am finally getting started with a 4e Planescape), I'm not sure a straight conversion from WotC would come out that well. But who knows.
So short answer - I have no clue, but I'll go with OA of some sort. *shrug*
PoeticJustice
First Post
There's Draconians in the minis set premiering at GenCon, it's the 25th anniversary of the setting andthey've got retrospective books out by Weis?
Dragonlance is either a mortal lock or the best fake-out Wotc has managed to pull since the My Little Ponies RPG. Still hoping for a surprise, though.
Dragonlance is either a mortal lock or the best fake-out Wotc has managed to pull since the My Little Ponies RPG. Still hoping for a surprise, though.
Asmor
First Post
Wait, what? They canceled MLPRPG?!? Dammit all!
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