4e 3rd Party Products You Would Have Bought

4e Books by 3rd Party I would have bought at lunch

  • Creature Catalog: SL monster book.

    Votes: 17 22.7%
  • Tome of Horrors: NG monster book of classics.

    Votes: 37 49.3%
  • Eldritch Sorcerery: Rituals, spells, feats, magic items by NG.

    Votes: 15 20.0%
  • World's Largest Dungeon: 1st-30th level! More Darkmantles!

    Votes: 15 20.0%
  • Relics & Rituals: SL spells/magic items/feats/etc

    Votes: 19 25.3%
  • Denizens of Avandu

    Votes: 6 8.0%
  • Book of Fiends: GR Book of demonic/devlish monsters

    Votes: 18 24.0%
  • Book of the Righteous: GR Pantheon Book

    Votes: 12 16.0%
  • Freeport 4e: Monsters, NPCs, feats, etc

    Votes: 23 30.7%
  • Players Guide to Scarred Lands: Paragon, Epic, etc

    Votes: 17 22.7%
  • Penumbra Bestiary: Updated to 4e by Atlas

    Votes: 6 8.0%
  • Arcana Unleashed: Arcana Evolved in 4e

    Votes: 27 36.0%
  • Book of Eldritch Might: Three books updated to 4e

    Votes: 16 21.3%
  • Other: I can't believe you missed...

    Votes: 17 22.7%


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Why am I buying games at lunch again? :D

4e Freeport is coming out so I would and will be getting that.

Really? Who's doing it? When is it coming out?

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Edit: Mhmm... Expeditious Retreat Press... could anyone comment if they are any good? Are we better off just using the system-neutral setting?
 
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I debated putting "other" for adventures, but, frankly, I've seen just two adventures by WotC that were enjoyable (the orc stronghold thing and Red Hand). Goodman games tends to be very good, but I have many of that style of module now. So, while I would support 3PP of modules, I've yet to see anything that goes wow on the adventure side and am rapidly becoming skeptical.
 

Edit: Mhmm... Expeditious Retreat Press... could anyone comment if they are any good? Are we better off just using the system-neutral setting?

I can. :D They've been working pretty hard on the book for a little while now. I know because I've talked to them about it and they borrowed some 4e adventures from me to see exactly how NPCs are being stated up and to help double check the way they are doing it. I have no insider info on how the book is going to turn out but my faith in the company is such that expect good things from them.
 


I tend towards monster books and adventures.

Source material I am leery on, just for balance reasons. I never used published setting (I always homebrew), so I don't bother with settings. I'll get the monster book for one though. :)

I wouldn't get much for new classes or powers, but I might get a book of rituals and/or magic items.
 

None of them. After just over a year into 4e...

There are 18+ base classes available already and scores of paragon paths, with PH3 on the horizon. Dozens of playable races.

Thousands (?) of monsters - all accessible online through DDI, with a new "official" Monster Manual coming out every year.

The 4e equivalent of the awesome 3e Magic Item Compendium came out early in the cycle, not at the very end... so we have a huge variety of items, with Adventurer's Vault 2 on the horizon.

No previous version has ever had this amount of official crunch in such a brief period of time, and in such an accessible format (DDI). I have no need of 3rd party material which (from hard lessons learned during 3e) will usually have lower production values, more balancing problems, more typographical errors and less accessibility than the oceans of official material.

Having said that, I'd love to see more modules being provided by 3rd parties... but those weren't an option in the poll.
 


Freeport at first was just modules and the WLD is a module of sorts. :cool:

True, true... :)

But I equated Freeport with the campaign setting. For the record, that was one of the few 3rd party products I really liked in 3e. I'm just not sure I'd buy it now, though. We're getting a new campaign setting every 12 months from the official sources, not counting emergent settings like Nentir Vale.

Plus, the real value of a campaign setting is the fluff... which I already have! That lovely 3e Freeport campaign guide is still equally usable in 4e. I just slap some 4e NPC stats around some of the vibrant characters therein, and I'm away. Why buy it again?

To put it another way, I bought the 4e Forgotten Realms Players Guide for the crunch (genasi, drow, swordmage, rituals, etc)... but I'd never buy the Campaign Setting. I've already got an awesome [3e] campaign book for the Realms. And I've got sufficient [1e] material for Dragonlance, all of the [2e] Planescape books, and some detailed [Rolemaster] books for Middle Earth. As long as WotC gives me a crunchtastic PH / MM / DMG every year, I'm set for life!

As for WLD, the less said the better. It might've been a good idea 25 years ago, but a thousand-room dungeon hasn't appealed to me in a loooong time. :p
 

This is a poll based on an idea generated in another thread.

We all know these have no scientific baring.

We all know they don't reflect the 'greater' reality as En World users are not always typical users.

However, I thought it'd be fun to see what people would have bought had the books been available upon launch.
Correcting: Creature COLLECTION, the SL monster book, is available for 4e right now. Relics and Rituals will be coming near the tail-end of the year.
 

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