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"4E, as an anti-4E guy" (Session Two)
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<blockquote data-quote="fanboy2000" data-source="post: 4853874" data-attributes="member: 19998"><p><strong>The Return of the Rule</strong></p><p></p><p>True story. When I started playing 3e back in the day, it was with anti-battlemat people, so I didn't have a reference for how to deal with miniature. In fact, when I first started playing in the 90s, there was a kind of anti-miniature and battlemat sentiment going around. When I started-up my own group as the DM I didn't use one but half my players (I had two, the other one was his girlfriend who was new to D&D and tabletop RPGs in general ) insisted on some kind of representation.</p><p></p><p>So I invested in a battlemat and some tokens. I believe mine for from Sword and Sorcery. Now had pay more attention to the movement rules and such. The original printing of the 3e PHB (the one with few monsters in the back to tide the DM over until the MM came out two months later) didn't say, one way or another, how to count squares. I went with a 1-1-1 standard (aware that it was unrealistic, but chalking it up to D&D is unrealistic).</p><p></p><p>In fact, I had to make a lot a decisions that IIRC weren't in the 3e rule book. For example, my first, home made, fireball template started in the center of the square and not at an intersection. Latter, through the website and Dragon I gathered 'official' templates. I also found out that, technically, I was supposed to count every other square as 2 squares. Since it wasn't in the rulebook and I didn't like that rule (to cumbersome for me) I ignored it. Latter, in the 3.5 rulebook the 1-2-1 was included. That's when I switched, figuring it was better to switch than to argue over personal taste.</p><p></p><p>So, when 4e went the 1-1-1 route, I considered it a return to a rule that I feel never should have been changed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fanboy2000, post: 4853874, member: 19998"] [b]The Return of the Rule[/b] True story. When I started playing 3e back in the day, it was with anti-battlemat people, so I didn't have a reference for how to deal with miniature. In fact, when I first started playing in the 90s, there was a kind of anti-miniature and battlemat sentiment going around. When I started-up my own group as the DM I didn't use one but half my players (I had two, the other one was his girlfriend who was new to D&D and tabletop RPGs in general ) insisted on some kind of representation. So I invested in a battlemat and some tokens. I believe mine for from Sword and Sorcery. Now had pay more attention to the movement rules and such. The original printing of the 3e PHB (the one with few monsters in the back to tide the DM over until the MM came out two months later) didn't say, one way or another, how to count squares. I went with a 1-1-1 standard (aware that it was unrealistic, but chalking it up to D&D is unrealistic). In fact, I had to make a lot a decisions that IIRC weren't in the 3e rule book. For example, my first, home made, fireball template started in the center of the square and not at an intersection. Latter, through the website and Dragon I gathered 'official' templates. I also found out that, technically, I was supposed to count every other square as 2 squares. Since it wasn't in the rulebook and I didn't like that rule (to cumbersome for me) I ignored it. Latter, in the 3.5 rulebook the 1-2-1 was included. That's when I switched, figuring it was better to switch than to argue over personal taste. So, when 4e went the 1-1-1 route, I considered it a return to a rule that I feel never should have been changed. [/QUOTE]
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