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4E Class Survivor - Round 2

Which 4E class do you want to vote off the list?

  • Avenger

    Votes: 4 3.4%
  • Barbarian

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Bard

    Votes: 3 2.6%
  • Cleric

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Druid

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Fighter

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Invoker

    Votes: 13 11.1%
  • Paladin

    Votes: 7 6.0%
  • Ranger

    Votes: 4 3.4%
  • Rogue

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Shaman

    Votes: 25 21.4%
  • Sorcerer

    Votes: 3 2.6%
  • Swordmage

    Votes: 13 11.1%
  • Warden

    Votes: 9 7.7%
  • Warlock

    Votes: 15 12.8%
  • Warlord

    Votes: 8 6.8%
  • Wizard

    Votes: 4 3.4%

  • Poll closed .

Wepwawet

Explorer
Warlord again, and I'll keep voting it until it goes away.

It's an unfortunate name, it's military, heals with an order ("Stop bleeding!") and because it's a military officer.

I'm happy to see it's taking the lead :)
 

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Jack99

Adventurer
Die swordmage, because you were supposed to be a defender/striker, not a defender/controller - ie you do not feel right.
 





Wik

First Post
@Wik so not only are you an outcast of the world at large (cos you play DnD) you are even an outcast within DnD (cos you play the wrong classes!) ;)

Yeah, pretty much. And it's always been this way.

BECMI: I was the guy that played the halfling.
2e: I had a gnomish fighter, a halfling fighter, and a half-elven enchanter/druid.
3e: Spellthieves, Wu Jen, and Dragon Shamans.
4e: Swordmages and Shamans.
 

Wik

First Post
Die swordmage, because you were supposed to be a defender/striker, not a defender/controller - ie you do not feel right.

Wait, what?

The swordmage, supposed to combine the wizard (controller) and the fighter (defender), was supposed to be a defender/striker, and not an, um, defender/controller?

I think there's a lot of room for what you can do with a swordmage. About my only complaint is the focus on using blades.
 

Jack99

Adventurer
Yeah, pretty much. And it's always been this way.

BECMI: I was the guy that played the halfling.
2e: I had a gnomish fighter, a halfling fighter, and a half-elven enchanter/druid.
3e: Spellthieves, Wu Jen, and Dragon Shamans.
4e: Swordmages and Shamans.
You are definitely weird...

Wait, what?

The swordmage, supposed to combine the wizard (controller) and the fighter (defender), was supposed to be a defender/striker, and not an, um, defender/controller?

I think there's a lot of room for what you can do with a swordmage. About my only complaint is the focus on using blades.
I guess I could have specified that the part you quoted was my vision of the swordmage, and thus the very defensively orientated swordmage leaves a bit to desire.
 

Wik

First Post
You are definitely weird...

Yeah. I'm beginning to realize that. :)

I guess I could have specified that the part you quoted was my vision of the swordmage, and thus the very defensively orientated swordmage leaves a bit to desire.

Ah, I see then. Fair enough.

Personally, I like the swordmage, especially all their elemental keyword attacks - makes it very easy to specialize in a single element, and utilize feats to increase attacks and damage with that element keyword. I think, with the right feat choices, you could make a swordmage that was primarily a defender, but that was also able to be a striker and a controller in equal parts.
 

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