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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5855746" data-attributes="member: 54877">In a homebrew system (not at all D&D-ish), we had a lot of fun with a separate die for the rider effects, rolled with the attack dice.  In that system, it was 2d10 for attacks, and a d6 for the riders.  The rider table had effects ranging from results of 1-10, with the first four being "nothing", but very high attack results or situational modifiers gave bonuses to the rider roll.  It is fairly fast in practice, because most attacks have no riders, and this is readily apparent from the results.  You only care about the exact rider result when it is possible to get 5 or higher on that result. With the d20 as the attack die, you could also set the rider as a d8 by default, then bump the die size up or down a notch or two depending upon character capabilities, attack chosen, anything known at the time of the attack roll. Doing something like that might make "attack exceed target by 10" acceptable, because set conservatively enough, you'd only care when the rider die was high enough for it to matter.</blockquote>