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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5864264" data-attributes="member: 22779">Eldritch Lord - that's entirely the problem.  I DON'T want a situation where using the same maneuver three times in the same combat is ever a good idea.  It's boring.  And, because you can start stacking on bonuses like you're talking about, you wind right back at the 3e place of the specialist spamming the same maneuver round after round after round.  It's boring.-----------Y'know, I was cogitating on this on my drive to work today and I realized something.  JamesonCourage's examples don't actually say what he wants them to say.  In all of his examples, the character does something awesome.  That's great.You get the same thing with a Daily power.For JC's examples to be a good argument against AEDU powers, you'd actually have to do it again.  He'd have to roll that nat 20 with the javelin, plug the bad guy, and then, in the same encounter do it again.  The guy feeding his hand to the dragon would have to feed his OTHER hand to the dragon for it to not be exactly the same as a daily power.Now, your odds of scoring the nat 20 twice are 1 in 400.  I'm pretty willing to say that a 0.4% chance of something happening is the same as saying, "No, you can only do this once."</blockquote>