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4E combat and powers: How to keep the baby and not the bathwater?
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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5866459" data-attributes="member: 54877"><p>Theoretically, this part can be squared with the kind of system TwoSix was discussing--if the linkage between resource and effect is able to be swapped out with something more suitable to the style being pursued. (I'm not at all sure about the other parts of your points.)</p><p> </p><p>Instead of "resource" -> "maneuver or other effect", you need something like "resouce" -> "rationing system" -> "maneuver or other effect".</p><p> </p><p>If your rationing system is "fatigue", then you turn any resource that is remotely D&D Vancian into the equivalent of "mana" points or overtly "fatigue" points. Then the "resources" say what is available to use those points with. OTOH, if your "rationing system is "drama", then you might have some limits on when the "big guns" can be used, that discourages nova effects on round one. There might be other rationing systems for explicit gamist play, and so on. </p><p> </p><p>The only limit compared to 3E/4E here is that your set of resources and effects are constrained to those that will allow the swapping of the rationing system--or at least clearly call out which ones become unavailable in a given system. </p><p> </p><p>Like I said, highly theoretical. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 5866459, member: 54877"] Theoretically, this part can be squared with the kind of system TwoSix was discussing--if the linkage between resource and effect is able to be swapped out with something more suitable to the style being pursued. (I'm not at all sure about the other parts of your points.) Instead of "resource" -> "maneuver or other effect", you need something like "resouce" -> "rationing system" -> "maneuver or other effect". If your rationing system is "fatigue", then you turn any resource that is remotely D&D Vancian into the equivalent of "mana" points or overtly "fatigue" points. Then the "resources" say what is available to use those points with. OTOH, if your "rationing system is "drama", then you might have some limits on when the "big guns" can be used, that discourages nova effects on round one. There might be other rationing systems for explicit gamist play, and so on. The only limit compared to 3E/4E here is that your set of resources and effects are constrained to those that will allow the swapping of the rationing system--or at least clearly call out which ones become unavailable in a given system. Like I said, highly theoretical. :D [/QUOTE]
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