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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 5868791" data-attributes="member: 5143">My players want to win.  They want to feel like they've won completely and utterly.  That means win against me as a DM, win against the monsters, and win over the other PCs by making a better character than the other players.But it isn't fun for them to win by breaking the rules.  They want to play within the system.  So, if they can make a character who is capable of casting 3 spells a round(swift, quickened and regular) and therefore doing 3 times more damage than anyone else in the party, they will do so.  If they can make a character that, if they cast 10 spells at the beginning of a day as buffs allows them to be virtually indestructible for the next hour but then they'll be super weak...they'd do it.  And then turn around before the hour is up.  It isn't that they want a 15MAD.  It's that they want to be as powerful as the system allows them to be.  If the system allows them to be way more powerful by expending resources, they will expend those resources unless the system gives them a VERY good reason not to.They don't do it in 4e because they aren't capable of wasting all their spells in the first 15 minutes of each day.  Some of their spells come back every combat, so they aren't useless after the first combat, and even without their dailies, their effectiveness is only slightly reduced.  There aren't any buffs that last an hour and then go away so they can't waste all of their spells on buffs before they fight even the first encounter.</blockquote>

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