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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9560298" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Why not? Resurrection magic is known to exist. People who have been resurrected are known to remember what they experienced while they were dead. In the Great Wheel, the instant you die, your soul-form appears in the plane associated with your alignment.</p><p></p><p>This isn't like some crazy-weird thing only the rarest of rare people could have experienced. <em>Anyone</em> who dies and then gets resurrected could report on what they'd seen. Heck, you could have paid volunteers; I imagine a particularly empirically-minded Cleric (perhaps one with the Knowledge domain?) could work with such a thing, assuming they had the funds and spells to test it. After all, it's just 500 GP of diamond per revival and a 5th level spell. A retired adventurer with sufficient Cleric levels could easily take some large sum of money (perhaps funded by wizardly cosmologists, their church, and/or other interested parties) and investigate. Each volunteer would be paid some large sum of money to be killed and allowed to stay dead for nine days, two per day so as to not overtax the Cleric's spellcasting. Perhaps trying to focus on volunteers that are of verifiable alignment, so you can be reasonably confident about which plane they end up in.</p><p></p><p>Just because an ordinary Joe Shmoe can't check on it, doesn't mean it isn't verifiable fact. An ordinary Joe Shmoe couldn't have verified that the speed of light is constant in all reference frames, but that doesn't somehow make it so that all possible theories are of equally-undecidable truth value.</p><p></p><p>Further, trans-planar divination magic is known to exist. You can just...<em>look</em> at the other planes, with the right spell. So it's not even like you NEED to trust the word of someone who claims to have been there.</p><p></p><p>And, as noted, things like "parts of planes cleave off and go to other planes" isn't just whistling dixie. It's literally happened. One of the layers of Arcadia full-on sloughed off and glued itself to Mechanus because its residents were too Lawful and not sufficiently Good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9560298, member: 6790260"] Why not? Resurrection magic is known to exist. People who have been resurrected are known to remember what they experienced while they were dead. In the Great Wheel, the instant you die, your soul-form appears in the plane associated with your alignment. This isn't like some crazy-weird thing only the rarest of rare people could have experienced. [I]Anyone[/I] who dies and then gets resurrected could report on what they'd seen. Heck, you could have paid volunteers; I imagine a particularly empirically-minded Cleric (perhaps one with the Knowledge domain?) could work with such a thing, assuming they had the funds and spells to test it. After all, it's just 500 GP of diamond per revival and a 5th level spell. A retired adventurer with sufficient Cleric levels could easily take some large sum of money (perhaps funded by wizardly cosmologists, their church, and/or other interested parties) and investigate. Each volunteer would be paid some large sum of money to be killed and allowed to stay dead for nine days, two per day so as to not overtax the Cleric's spellcasting. Perhaps trying to focus on volunteers that are of verifiable alignment, so you can be reasonably confident about which plane they end up in. Just because an ordinary Joe Shmoe can't check on it, doesn't mean it isn't verifiable fact. An ordinary Joe Shmoe couldn't have verified that the speed of light is constant in all reference frames, but that doesn't somehow make it so that all possible theories are of equally-undecidable truth value. Further, trans-planar divination magic is known to exist. You can just...[I]look[/I] at the other planes, with the right spell. So it's not even like you NEED to trust the word of someone who claims to have been there. And, as noted, things like "parts of planes cleave off and go to other planes" isn't just whistling dixie. It's literally happened. One of the layers of Arcadia full-on sloughed off and glued itself to Mechanus because its residents were too Lawful and not sufficiently Good. [/QUOTE]
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