D&D 5E 4E Cosmology

[GusNBru]

Am I just weird? I'm 57 in March and this summer will mark my 50th year in D&D. I've hated the Great Wheel ever since I can remember. The shift in Cosmology and the addition of the Feywild and Shadowfell in 4e I thought was brilliant. I was disappointed when 5e went back to the Great Wheel model. I've kept 4th edition Cosmology In all my stuff and refuse to let it go. A couple of my players say I'm being a "Boomer" about it

What are people's thoughts on the current Cosmology In 5e? Do you make use of it or ignore it? Do you run successful adventures in it? Inquiring minds want to know!

 

[TheHand]

Planescape, from 2e, is me and my wife’s favorite setting, so we are in the Great Wheel club. We did, however, add the Feywild and Shadowfell to our multiverse when 4e was the current edition, much in the same way 5e eventually added them.
We actually really liked 4e as a system, but largely kept the setting and lore from 2nd and 3rd editions.

 

[Chaltab]

I use a custom set-up that incorporates both.

 

[TheHand]

Oh and welcome to Enworld!

 

[Black Dougal]

I'm a Great Wheeler.

 

[Chaltab]

I made a diagram of roughly the cosmology I use.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

Am I just weird? I'm 57 in March and this summer will mark my 50th year in D&D. I've hated the Great Wheel ever since I can remember. The shift in Cosmology and the addition of the Feywild and Shadowfell in 4e I thought was brilliant. I was disappointed when 5e went back to the Great Wheel model. I've kept 4th edition Cosmology In all my stuff and refuse to let it go. A couple of my players say I'm being a "Boomer" about it

What are people's thoughts on the current Cosmology In 5e? Do you make use of it or ignore it? Do you run successful adventures in it? Inquiring minds want to know!

I loved 4e's cosmology, and have always disliked the Great Wheel. I'm younger than you, so that might be part of it, but I always found the Great Wheel completely ridiculous for a world where "Chaos" is supposed to be an extremely strong, influential cosmic force.

Like...this is a universe where Chaos exists, and is trying to break everything down....and yet it plays perfectly nice with everyone else, stays in its lane, and participates exactly as it should in the pristine clockwork of the universe where there is a place for everything and everything has its place. It just...doesn't make sense, cosmologically.

The fact that the Great Wheel is also almost actively antagonistic to the concept of "playable, adventurable locations" is just as bad, of course. But the above has always bothered me so, so much.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

I made a diagram of roughly the cosmology I use.
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So, serious question: How is that possible?

This looks to me like the Great Wheel with a couple things stapled onto it.

 

[Chaltab]

So, serious question: How is that possible?

How is... what possible?

 

[cbwjm]

I love the great wheel and planescape, it'sone of ny favourite settings, but I also like the 4e cosmology, I think largely because the mythology behind it resonates with real world myth.

I disagree that the great wheel is unplayable, I find it no different than the 4e cosmology in that respect.