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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9574253" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p><em>Because it means there isn't anything!</em></p><p></p><p>You have annihilated <em>existence itself!</em></p><p></p><p>How much plainer do I have to make it?</p><p></p><p>Person A looks at location X and says, "That place is blue."</p><p></p><p>Person B looks at location X and says, "That place is <em>not</em> blue."</p><p></p><p><em>Both of these people are correct, and thus there cannot BE facts.</em></p><p></p><p>That is not acceptable worldbuilding to me. Either there are facts about the structure of reality, or there are not.</p><p></p><p>Local domains where statement P is true in one domain and false in another? That's probably fine. Spaces defined by cultural beliefs? Sure, you can have those. But the two places those cultures speak about, the places they say <em>mutually incompatible things</em> about, cannot be <em>one and exactly the same place</em>.</p><p></p><p>It is possible for the World Axis and the Great Wheel to both be correct only if they are talking about two totally different "regions" with little to no overlap. It is <em>not</em> possible for two people to both look at <em>exactly</em> the same place, with the same knowledge, at the same time, in the same manner, etc., etc., <em>as nauseam</em>, and yet (1) actually observe mutually contradictory things, and (2) both be completely, 100% correct.</p><p></p><p>Either at least one of them is mistaken for each aspect they disagree on, or both of them are mistaken, or <em>facts don't exist whatsoever.</em> You can prove ANY statement from a contradiction.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9574253, member: 6790260"] [I]Because it means there isn't anything![/I] You have annihilated [I]existence itself![/I] How much plainer do I have to make it? Person A looks at location X and says, "That place is blue." Person B looks at location X and says, "That place is [I]not[/I] blue." [I]Both of these people are correct, and thus there cannot BE facts.[/I] That is not acceptable worldbuilding to me. Either there are facts about the structure of reality, or there are not. Local domains where statement P is true in one domain and false in another? That's probably fine. Spaces defined by cultural beliefs? Sure, you can have those. But the two places those cultures speak about, the places they say [I]mutually incompatible things[/I] about, cannot be [I]one and exactly the same place[/I]. It is possible for the World Axis and the Great Wheel to both be correct only if they are talking about two totally different "regions" with little to no overlap. It is [I]not[/I] possible for two people to both look at [I]exactly[/I] the same place, with the same knowledge, at the same time, in the same manner, etc., etc., [I]as nauseam[/I], and yet (1) actually observe mutually contradictory things, and (2) both be completely, 100% correct. Either at least one of them is mistaken for each aspect they disagree on, or both of them are mistaken, or [I]facts don't exist whatsoever.[/I] You can prove ANY statement from a contradiction. [/QUOTE]
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