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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9579986" data-attributes="member: 6790260">A wonderful analogy, because it makes clear the specific claims I have been taking issue with. This goes for you too [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER].The World Tree cosmology explicitly says you cannot, even in principle, travel directly between two planes using the Astral Plane, that the nature of the Astral Plane is a "channeled" thing, and thus one terminus must always be the Prime. In the multiverse-is-the-internet, cosmologies-are-search-engines analogy, this would then be the statement that you can never move directly from one internet domain to another, unless you invoke some special third-party links (e.g. plane shift, which existed in 3e and thus was clearly accounted for in the World Tree). If you're going to use the, let's call it Astral Web Browser, the way that browser is coded, it must always return to the Foogle search page before it can go to a new domain. You can always use the AWB to go from Foogle to get to any domain you like, and you can always go to Foogle from any domain you like using AWB. But you cannot--ever--go directly from Hottopica.com to Pradadise.com.The World Axis and Great Wheel explicitly say that you CAN use the Astral Web Browser to go directly from one internet domain to another. There's no need to pass through Foogle first.Whether or not other web browsers exist--such as the PlaneShift browser or the Gate browser or whatever else--is irrelevant to whether this browser works this way, or doesn't work this way.Only three options can apply here:1. One of these claims is correct, and the other is incorrect. Either you can in fact go between those domains directly, or you can't.2. Somehow both are incorrect (perhaps the Astral Web Browser doesn't exist in the first place?? I dunno mang)3. Both are correct, but not of the same thing, in the same sense, at the same time. E.g. maybe Astral Web Browser used to need to route through Foogle, but doesn't anymore, or vice-versa, aka, not true at the same time. Or maybe a default setting of the Astral Web Browser causes it to connect to a shadow copy of the wider Internet, where you do in fact have to route through Foogle to reach any other domain, but if you change that setting then you can connect to the regular Internet, aka not true of the same thing. Not sure how to construct a "not in the same sense" structure in this case, but I'm sure there's some way.None of these possibilities allow it to be simultaneously true that no, you simply cannot ever connect from one domain to another directly using the Astral Web Browser, and also that you simply can connect from one domain to another directly using the Astral Web Browser.Point being, these are claims about the Astral Web Browser that different search engines make. The Astral Web Browser is available to every search engine regardless.</blockquote>

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