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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaltab" data-source="post: 9581023" data-attributes="member: 6775806">I mean that's a fair answer but I meant more in a meta sense about this conversation. The reason that these things can't be mutually true in your view is because of things said in those old source books. But D&D retcons itself all the time, and the current version of the canon they are.Personally, I would reconcile this by saying that, for a time prior to the Spellplague, there was an age in which Plane Shift spells couldn't be used between two divine realms without direct divine action, and this was explained by the shape of the planes being a tree. The math checked out. But things shift and change and the theory was refined. And some of the math still makes it look like maybe there's a tree-shape there, but the 'proof' that it's a tree is no longer accurate.That seems to be what the official interpretation is: basically anything written about the planes is the best guesses of scholars based on how the magic works and the guesses change as new data occurs.</blockquote>